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The Dose with Paddy and Belinda
Join Paddy Cunningham (@adoseofpaddy on TikTok / Instagram & Qualified Personal Trainer) and Belinda Hogan (@GLP1.Insights on Instagram) for your regular dose of all things GLP1 (Ozempic / Mounjaro etc).
Weâll provide inspiration, motivation and information to help you on your way to a happier and healthier life with a few laughs along the way. Weâll chat about our own journey which is currently supported by the GLP1 Obesity medication, Mounjaro - sharing highs and lows, answering your questions along with some expert guests.
This content is NOT medical advice nor promotional content about prescribed medications - always consult your GP before starting / changing medical treatments and to discuss all available options for your healthcare, wether medicated or not.
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The Dose with Paddy and Belinda
We are BACK 𥳠Life update & hello Season 2 [S2E1]
Paddy and Belinda reunite in person for our season two premier, sharing personal updates on their medical weight loss journeys and reconnecting after a break from the podcast. (This is our first time ever meeting!!)
⢠Paddys SHOCKING weight regain ...... no really.
⢠We chat about Paddy on TV in a documentary "The Skinny Jab Revolution" along with other media bits both Paddy & Belinda have been upto!
⢠Belinda shares further updates on her fitness journey and the changes to her own body composition - also she's been cheating on Paddy.
⢠All this and more with the usual chit chat, randomness, laughs and banter you expect from us both
Combined Paddy & Belindas weight loss totals over 170lbs supported by GLP1 Medications Ozempic & Mounjaro along with a focus on nutrition, movement and associated lifestyle changes.
None of the content in this episode is to be treated as medical advice or promotion towards any specific treatment or medication - this is a sharing of a personal journey. Always seek out personal support from your GP / Medical Care team before beginning or changing any aspect of your healthcare.
We are not medically qualified - simply sharing our insights based on our journeys so far. Paddy is a Qualified Personal Trainer / Nutritional Coach and is also an Assoc. member of the National Union of Journalists.
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And you are very welcome back to episode one, season two of the Dose. My name is Paddy and here with me in person is Belinda, it's Belinda.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, we're here in person. For how long have we known each other?
Speaker 2:Since, like last summer, so.
Speaker 1:Bloody hell, is it.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Like a summertime.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So like you're talking about August, Eight months, seven months, oh my God, six, seven months it really doesn't feel that long, though I know it does for me, yeah, okay. Well, there we are, and we're back in the room literally, we are in a room in my bedroom yeah, in a double bedroom.
Speaker 1:I think I have my own, though.
Speaker 2:It's okay I think it's. I think it's queen size actually, which is probably more fitting my room is massive.
Speaker 1:Compared to this, this is a shit room. Is yours bigger?
Speaker 2:no, okay, I'd be fucking rich, I'd be down, I know you would. I'd be down there throwing such a bitch fit. I know, love it. We've no agenda, we've nothing planned for this.
Speaker 1:I just literally sat down and said to Paddy, did you like? What are we talking about?
Speaker 2:No, I wasn't saying did you what, Did you what?
Speaker 1:Like did you sort anything out?
Speaker 2:Did you sort anything out, did you? We have nothing sorted out. We've nothing, no, but you know what I think?
Speaker 1:we'll be okay, though We'll find out, you know.
Speaker 2:okay, we might just scrap this whole fucking we might tomorrow um with an agenda, so we've had a wee break from the podcast how long have we been off, paddy? Well, I don't know when this is going to go out, this thing oh, yeah, but as of today as of today, we've had a break for three, uh, it'll be four, nearly four weeks. Okay, three, four weeks, yeah. So we last recorded the week before I had my surgery, was it, I think?
Speaker 1:That's right, so like.
Speaker 2:So like since then We've had, I've had my surgery.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Been off Monjaro a long time.
Speaker 1:Oh, my goodness as well. That's what we were Going to be talking about. Yeah, back on it now, yes, which we'll talk about as well.
Speaker 2:We have each done other podcasts.
Speaker 1:Yeah yeah, you're slightly more bloody famous than mine.
Speaker 2:Oh, no, no, no, no, oh, come on, come on. So by the time this goes out, there will have been some TV stuff.
Speaker 1:You have also been on national television.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so there's stuff to talk about.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and you've got one coming out as well. Talk about yeah and you've got one coming out as well. Yeah, yeah, and we have got so many good guests lined up for this season we do which we're not talking about. Which we're not talking about because we haven't even sorted that out.
Speaker 2:No, we haven't sorted that out which is why I don't know when this is going to go out, but anyway, yes first of all sponsored to pay for their own money yeah yeah, um, I hit a cart like I offered to help you but like there's a lot of equipment, yeah and it's heavy, these things are massive they're the area, so people are listening. It's.
Speaker 1:It's the microphone did you get this one? Is this the same one as I've?
Speaker 2:got no, no, that's a different stand. Yeah, yeah, yeah so yeah, so yeah, but this is my proper wee setup.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's really nice, very slick, very bright, lots of lights.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no surprise there. So when you are in a hotel, do you fleece the room?
Speaker 1:Absolutely. I'm a 16-year-old at home. That's the last thing she said to me Bring back everything you can.
Speaker 2:So what do you normally? What normally goes in the bag? I remember this is going to go out after we leave here.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the light bulbs, the batteries from the remote control. What?
Speaker 2:The towels? Oh my God. No, Not the towels.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, oh yeah, take everything.
Speaker 2:I'm only joking, oh my God. No, she's not, I am joking no I don't.
Speaker 1:I don't anymore. I used to. I used to.
Speaker 2:So it depends how many towels there are, yeah, how long you're in the room and how many times they're refreshed, how many you've hidden Whilst they're refreshed.
Speaker 1:But also, you have to remember I had a 12 year career In hotel management.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And no.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, no, you wouldn't do it.
Speaker 1:No, of course you wouldn't do that no, no only because you know what's going on in the room.
Speaker 2:No, totally so for me, definitely the wee toiletries. I cannot leave the wee toiletries. The best haul I ever got was out in Orlando. We were staying in Universal Surfside Inn Suites on International Drive and it was a room that could. It had three double beds so it could fit six people Right. It had two bedrooms in it.
Speaker 1:Just the two of you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, nice and. But the other thing is it comes with like a little kitchen area and sitting area. So that's more so why we'd booked that. Yeah, because you have more space in the room and you can do a little bit of food and stuff like that. But as part of that I had rang down to reception. I was like, oh here, could we get a refresh of the toiletries please? You know, expecting that they were just going to bring up like enough for the two people.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:No way. They brought up enough stuff for six people for like the rest of the week, so they did.
Speaker 1:Because there was, it was a room for six people. Because it was a room for six people.
Speaker 2:Because it was six people and they didn't know how many people were in the room? Well, whoever restocked, it mustn't have. So they literally brought in and I'm not kidding now, because I had to weigh it when I was coming home the toiletries that they left in weighed two kilos.
Speaker 1:Five pounds.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I had to go through. Okay, am I really bringing these home you?
Speaker 1:had to, I had to, I had to, yeah, yeah yeah, you couldn't.
Speaker 2:Like they're brilliant for if you're going away or for the gym or stuff like that they're really good. Or like I'm a big fan of going car camping, which I haven't spoken about on the podcast because we're like that's on your other Instagram page. Yeah, it's on my other. So I have a second Instagram page called the Irish paddy and it's kind of you know, last year I kind of took it upon myself to go around visiting places in Ireland, all this kind of stuff. But one of the things is I do it in my car and I usually will sleep in my car. But it's a bit more glamorous than that. Like I have the back made up, I have a lovely mattress in there, duvet, like it is really cosy really nice, and do you have curtains?
Speaker 2:No, but I did go and get the highest tint that I could on it, so you can't see in. Oh, nice yeah, so it's grand, but yeah, so that's like one of the things I do.
Speaker 1:I love that, but anyway, car camping, car camping. So yeah, that's where it's for Hotel toiletries, lovely.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly. So they're happy for that. But the other thing I do if I know I'm going somewhere fancy, I'll usually bring like an empty Simproof bottle with me.
Speaker 1:What's that? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah For your gosh.
Speaker 2:So here's one I made earlier. So this is the size of the Simproof bottle Right, and I will like stand there and just pump the stuff into it.
Speaker 1:Pump all the stuff into it If it's good stuff. I hope this bloody hotel isn't going to be watching this.
Speaker 2:I've checked out here. I wouldn't call it well, no, maybe I'll need to recheck it, but it didn't seem the fancy fancy no, it's okay, though it's not bad, the hand soap or the hand moisturiser is nice, okay, okay, but like some place you'll go and they might have like Voya stuff or they'll have Elemis or stuff like that.
Speaker 1:Elemis is the best. Yes, anything with bergamot in it, yes.
Speaker 2:So I have a few of these.
Speaker 1:How long does that last you then, when you drink it? Oh?
Speaker 2:ages. Oh, so a bottle of this, so one bottle of that is that's a week's worth, oh is that all? Yeah, we're not talking about drinking the toiletry. We're talking about that's one bottle A week's worth.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's expensive, isn't it?
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I think it's so worth it. Like the thing is, it's well if you break it down. Less than a coffee a day.
Speaker 1:Okay, right, do you know what I mean? And I do buy a coffee a day. Yeah, exactly Every day. So like this is 500ml that bottle but like I have literally of Voya Live and active bacteria. This isn't sponsored.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, it's not sponsored.
Speaker 1:I've heard so many people speaking about that for their gut.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I. That is one of the things Simproof, that I have taken religiously since day one of my medicated weight loss journey. Like day one, I've taken this because the pharmacy gifted me a box. At the start you said and I was like, actually I've washed that bottle, so there's probably no.
Speaker 1:Oh right, there's nothing. Yeah, no, that's not it in it, is it? No? No, no, all right, that's just water, in case, yeah.
Speaker 2:In case there was a good stash here to fill it with.
Speaker 1:Shame, Joseph. Actually, do you know what I'm really surprised at myself? That I've never thought about doing that.
Speaker 2:I have heard Go on of people oh my god that like say, if they go to places like I don't know, but like imagine somebody went to, like, say, centre Parcs, and Centre Parcs is like all Elema stuff and like some of them would fill a bottle similar to that with stuff.
Speaker 1:Have you been to Centre Parcs?
Speaker 2:I've been to Centre Parcs loads of times.
Speaker 1:Same, I've been there three times yeah. But I had never thought of doing that. You obviously robbed the place blind.
Speaker 2:Well, no, I used to be an altar boy, so like I could never do things like that.
Speaker 1:You were as well, weren't you? I can tell.
Speaker 2:People outside Ireland are like what?
Speaker 1:is an altar boy. Oh, I think they might know actually. That's a story for a whole other day, but anyway, a whole different podcast podcast, a whole different podcast, but anyway, yeah, so, um, that that is a, that's a tangent really good, no, but that's a really good idea.
Speaker 1:I'm totally gonna do that now um or I love that, yeah, but so I usually won't do this with me just in case, yeah just in case, just in case you know paddy, we need to talk about you now for a moment oh god we need to talk about the most important thing me yeah oh yeah and then you went off of your medication to have an operation.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes not a nose job, as we said last time my mother was mum was telling everyone it was a nose job. It was a job in my nose yeah but it was not a nose job.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was a septoplasty, so I've covered this in detail in a previous podcast so I won't go into too much. But basically had a deviated septum um, which is a crooked septum in your nose that can come from an injury or you can be born with it or stuff like that, and, from what I understand, I don't know how I got it yeah, because you wanted it fixed because it impacted my breathing.
Speaker 2:So I went and got it fixed there um at the very start of February and um I'm currently in that healing process. Still very much so If you had spoken to me like two weeks ago, you wouldn't have been able to know it was you.
Speaker 1:You would have heard a very different Paddy. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:But had the surgery. Surgery went really well.
Speaker 1:And how long before the surgery did you come off of Monjaro?
Speaker 2:I was off Monjaro two weeks before it.
Speaker 1:Okay, yes. So did you come off of Monjaro? I was off Monjaro two weeks before it. Okay, yes, yeah. So what I kind of found was so what date was that then you came off of?
Speaker 2:Oh, it would have been like week three of January. Okay, week three of January.
Speaker 1:And we're done now with February.
Speaker 2:We are at the end of February now, so you're five weeks since.
Speaker 2:So five weeks since I first stopped it. But we'll kind of go through, I guess, the timeline there. So, yeah, so I stopped it two weeks beforehand, which would have been about week three of January. Yeah, I had the surgery the end of week one of February or something like that. One of the biggest things that surprised me was how quickly that feeling actually we spoke about this in the last podcast how quickly that sensation of not being able to feel full came back. Yeah, so, different from food noise, yeah, yeah, we touched on it. Oh, yeah, we did. Yes, so, not food noise, but I will touch on that as well. Yeah, but, um, and this was a real moment of realization for me.
Speaker 2:So go back and listen to the previous podcast definitely stopping when, jaron, you'll hear a lot more about this, but anyway. So that feeling of not being able to feel full has been a constant since.
Speaker 1:Still.
Speaker 2:So up until I am now back on Munjarro.
Speaker 1:Yeah, go back though and say when you started, yeah, so as of the time, and I will.
Speaker 2:So I had essentially four weeks there thereabouts, maybe a bit more of essentially four weeks there thereabouts, maybe a bit more of three and a half four weeks of pretty much an inability to feel in any way full how quickly after you stopped your medication did that feeling come back I would say about day, day five ish yeah that's how long it takes, isn't it? Yeah, I for that medication to go out of your system.
Speaker 2:Now probably Well it's lessons, it's the half-life, it's not completely gone, like it kind of reduces gradually over a number of weeks. But I was shocked at how as I talked about in the previous podcast how hungry I thought I was, but obviously I now know it wasn't hunger, it was an inability to feel full.
Speaker 1:But yeah, and that was horrible. Yeah, was that more of a feeling of like you could have kept eating? Oh yeah, oh, I could have and I did. Yeah, I did Belinda yeah.
Speaker 2:Because I say it took me a bit of time to get to that realization that I wasn't actually hungry.
Speaker 1:Yeah. You know, to that realization that I wasn't actually hungry. Yeah, you know, and it was when you started eating, so you couldn't make yourself feel full.
Speaker 2:You couldn't get that sense of yeah. Even in between meals, no matter what throughout the day, no matter how much I ate, I would not feel full see, that's just scares the fucking shit out of me and that reminds me of what life was like before we started the medicated journey and it, just, it, just, it was scary thinking, oh my God. So I did do a few days of tracking my food and my fitness pal to kind of see, okay, what was my intake. I didn't do that for the full few weeks.
Speaker 1:I had thought I would but I thought you know you planned it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I thought this is not realistic.
Speaker 1:This is not it's not going to be realistic, for me Especially when you yeah, I thought this is not realistic. This is not. It's not gonna be realistic for me, especially when you but the thing is patty you did that before. Yeah, you did the whole fitness tracking stuff and stuff. But I think because you had been in that period of what seven months? Yeah of not needing to do that and like very intuitive yeah yeah, and leaning into the medication and your fitness and all the rest of it, then yeah yeah and then okay.
Speaker 1:So after you had the realization about the um not being able to feel full, yeah, when did you? Can you pinpoint if the food noise came back?
Speaker 2:yes, the, the, the food noise came back. Uh, it would have been, uh, three weeks after I stopped okay and I was in Westport and I remember waking up you knew. I knew I woke up and instantly it was like food. Immediately, that little radio was back in my head.
Speaker 1:Three weeks not too bad, no.
Speaker 2:Not too bad. I was surprised. I thought that would have come back sooner.
Speaker 1:That's not that's not like for everyone, no, no. For everyone no, no, no.
Speaker 2:It differs massively, massively as with any kind of you know journey that people are on, or treatment or medication, whatever people's biology can impact how how you know it reacts to them. But for me I was surprised that the food noise didn't come back for three weeks. Yeah, I thought it would come back quicker based on what I'd seen on tiktok from other people and stuff like that, but definitely that hole in my stomach was just could not fill it which was worse?
Speaker 1:which did you find harder to handle being off the medication?
Speaker 2:the inability to feel full. Right, okay, because I now know that that is a feeling of almost satisfaction, if that makes sense, a contentment or something that like I'm full, I'm grand, I don't need to think about food or anything like that. Or you know, I don't need to think about food or anything like that. Or, you know, don't need to worry about where the food has come from or what we're having or anything like that. I'm okay, I'm grand, I've had my feed.
Speaker 2:Um, like, no, like the amount of times again I've gone like, say, the sugary stuff, the sweet stuff, having to have that multiple times. I say having because my body is driving me to have it. I know it's not a case I'll die if I don't have it, but I mean in terms of the drive that I was getting from my body in like that whole thing again could easily eat multiple bars of chocolate, that very sweet tooth that I had, standing multiple times in the fridge, opening the fridge again and this difference. Now I can be like what are you doing here? Not every time, sometimes the fridge won, but again I'd be like what are you doing here?
Speaker 2:so there was some realisation of that were you able to pull back from it sometimes right, sometimes because again I would be like is that only because you talked yourself out of it. Yes, absolutely. Yeah, you had to make an effort, absolutely yeah it wasn't like opening the because when you're on your medication.
Speaker 1:And I know this and I still. I'm two and a half years in and I still still can't believe that when I open the fridge and there's a chocolate cake in there.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I close the fridge and I walk away. It's absolutely mind-blowing, still to me.
Speaker 2:And this one thing. So I went back and was about where there was a bar of chocolate in the fridge, like months ago, and I was able to open it, have like one or two, like one or two little squares, and I felt satisfied, content from it and grinned and just walked away. Whereas the past few weeks not a hope. If there would have been three chocolate bars in there, I probably would have been again.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Not because I would have needed them, anything whatsoever like that, just because that old sensation in my body that I had before last summer back full force.
Speaker 1:Okay. So then I suppose there's this big, huge thing, isn't there with GLP-1 medications, that there is a party of people out there that will say this medication is for life. Yes, and you have to have this for life. And then there's another party of people that will say that while you're in this period of medical weight loss, then you should be able to retrain your brain, you should be able to retrain yourself yeah now the thing that I say with that is listen, if I couldn't do that for 30 solid years on my goddamn own, after trying, I can't even.
Speaker 1:There's no number. There's no number that could say the amount of times I tried, same as yourself. Like it's not, I don't, I don't believe it. I don't believe that being in this state is possible to live like this out of without a weight loss medication.
Speaker 2:I don't, I know that's controversial, but I don't really care well, I think, for the, the experts that we follow and that we kind of respect and that we have trusted from their advice and stuff like that. The oracles, the oracles Dr Crotty last week, but like a lot of those, would indicate that this is a long term treatment because, as we again would say, for us we see this as a treatment, not a cure yeah the same way that you're not going to say to you know somebody with high cholesterol, yeah, or a diabetic or something like that or just train yourself to do this or do that you know train your body but anyway.
Speaker 2:So that was the experience of kind of the food and then starting back.
Speaker 1:So how many weeks ago did you start?
Speaker 2:back just a week ago, within the past week. Oh, was it only a week? Yeah, just over a week ago. Yeah, yeah, yeah oh, okay.
Speaker 1:I thought, it was two no, no, no right so what did you start off doing then?
Speaker 2:so I had contacted, which is very paddy. Like I said, I'll find out the answer.
Speaker 1:I'll ask every single person.
Speaker 2:I know, so I asked multiple medical professionals. These are fully qualified doctors, etc. Yeah, About what should my starting restarting regime look like?
Speaker 1:Saying that you had come away from it.
Speaker 2:For a number of weeks before surgery.
Speaker 1:And you were on previous when, before you came off 15 milligram 15 milligram.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I was on the highest dose of Manjaro, which is treatment. I am on 15 milligram once a week and I got answers varying from. You can go on. You can resume your treatment the day after surgery to. You can resume it a week after to. You can resume it two weeks after to. It could be four weeks or more before you can resume it. So I got very inconsistent answers.
Speaker 1:I'm not saying any of them give me wrong information. Yeah, but there isn't.
Speaker 2:There wasn't alignment on how it resumes for me.
Speaker 1:Did you reach out to the manufacturers?
Speaker 2:No, no, okay, because they won't give you medical advice.
Speaker 1:Okay, they won't Right.
Speaker 2:And that's not their job. Yeah, that's not their job. Yeah, like the doctors and the prescribers and the experts that are trained in this, this is where I think often they will use their judgment, based on a patient and their medical situation, to make a judgment on it, and I think that's why I was getting different answers.
Speaker 2:And depending on your own biology and age and weight and height and everything. So, like I don't think anyone told me wrong information as such, I just think it showed, um, maybe just some of the discrepancies and in how, yeah, people think about and give advice on this. But, like, the things that I took away from it was that kind of post-surgery. There wasn't like a clinical risk as such, if you get me in terms of when I go back on it. It was more so the considerations were resuming it too early could result in it slowing down healing for me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, if I had a large gap of a number of weeks and restarted back on that high dose of 15, that I could have some side effects yep, definitely would have so these were the things, so I didn't have a clear answer to go with right.
Speaker 1:So you took matters into your own hand, and what did you do?
Speaker 2:so, yeah, I tried to look at the various bits of information I'd been given and I said, right, do you know what? So that I was like multiple people had told me I could start on maybe 7.5 again.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but 7.5 but I said you know what I'm actually curious to see um as well. Now other people I said I I had got different advice from different places but I include in one place it did mention 2.5. So I said, okay, I'm going to restart on the 2.5. It's the lowest dose. Again, I know there's been other people that after periods of weeks have restarted on 2.5 and stuff like that. But I was curious to see as well how is this going to impact my body. Like was I going to get that, what we call that therapeutic response, again from it? So I took the first dose of 2.5. Off 2.5 and it was nothing, right, yeah, nothing, which is why I've been thrown out the window.
Speaker 1:Nothing whatsoever so when you, when you started going back on the medication yeah did you have at any point in your mind that you know I might just see now where I would land if I was in maintenance at this point?
Speaker 2:Like have I lost like a hundred pounds? Yeah, definitely, definitely yeah yeah. That was partly in my mind as well. To see, okay, where it's going to be interesting to see, where does my body get that response?
Speaker 1:Yeah, and how long. It would last yeah, when you get to that stage that you are getting a therapeutic response, how long can you get out of?
Speaker 2:that yeah.
Speaker 1:You know, looking at maintenance kind of as well.
Speaker 2:Anyway, go on, yeah, and then moved to more recently to the five milligram Right. So five milligram surprised me, okay, given that I was on 15, whatever, for I can't remember the weeks. A good few weeks ago, um, five milligram, I did get a bit of a response from um, which lasted, I would say, maybe two, two days, maybe two to three days so I did get some response from it yeah, yeah, you weren't expecting it, were you I?
Speaker 2:wasn't expecting that, no. Right okay, I wasn't. It was pretty short-lived, yeah, but I did, I did get that, and then how long did you give that? Then you went how long did you go on to the 2.5,? I took the 5. Right, okay, because you have to leave a week between them.
Speaker 1:Right, okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so that was why and actually I'm just thinking you're right it is two weeks since I started back.
Speaker 1:I was thinking it was yeah, because you've done yeah yeah, yeah, Because I'm just thinking.
Speaker 2:sure, I took 7.5 yesterday.
Speaker 1:So you're going into your third.
Speaker 2:So yeah, you're right, I get so confused all the days.
Speaker 1:I'm always right. You don't have your spreadsheet in front of you. I don't have my spreadsheet.
Speaker 2:I know so, so I've taken so five milligram. Yeah, there was a a short lived response from it Okay.
Speaker 1:So a couple of days, a couple of days, and then you went for maybe four days without any response from it at all.
Speaker 2:Yes, Okay, yes, okay, absolutely right, yeah, yeah, yeah, just like I had nothing whatsoever, um, and then so just took 7.5 yesterday, okay, and I do feel again that I do have that sensation of not being hung of, of of feeling full okay, good okay let me rephrase that I'm feeling full yeah, yeah, yeah so I would say throughout like what you ate earlier on.
Speaker 1:Now you get a. Did you get your feeling from that?
Speaker 2:So I wasn't even hungry eating that.
Speaker 1:Yeah right, I don't know what I ordered. That what I ordered.
Speaker 2:So, like earlier on, I had some protein at breakfast and had coffee, and then at lunch I said I was going to get some soup and some brown bread, which I did, but I wouldn't say I had that sensation of needing food. No, whereas right now, because I know we're going for dinner after this as well, I do feel that physical hunger yeah which is what I want yeah, I am starting to feel a little bit like on that hunger scale I'd say I'm like maybe a six tipping into a seven.
Speaker 2:Now yeah, yeah, so by the time we get down for dinner, I'd say I probably will be hungry yeah but which is normal, and that's even when I was on 7.5 or even when I was on 15 before. If you go long enough without food, you're you are gonna feel hungry eventually the thing as well, isn't it?
Speaker 1:that's another like people think that it's a red flag when you're on this oh my god, no, no, no, hunger yeah you have to feel hungry like you absolutely must feel hungry like I think if somebody is chasing 24-7 suppression, yeah, they're not going to find that you.
Speaker 2:You need to have a chat with yourself, probably with with yourself but with your doctor, and probably yeah, no, but, all jokes aside, probably I'm not being flippant about that now, but yeah yeah, but anyway, so that's going to be the journey. People go in expecting that, but it's not, but that's been the kind of journey so far. That yeah, but two weeks back on 7.5, I'd be interested to see how many days I get out of it do you think you're going to get a couple of days longer maybe out of this?
Speaker 1:I'd hope so.
Speaker 2:I would hope so too, but then if I look at when I moved from 10 to 12.5 right moved from 10 to 12.5 right and 12.5 wasn't that therapeutic for me yeah even though it was a stronger dose for me yeah, 10 did nothing for me, yeah it's just a and this is different everybody's journey is so different yeah so different yeah and like as much as we share ours, you can't use ours for comparison.
Speaker 1:Or you can't use people on tiktok or instagram for comparison you can't use anybody's no, you can't, you can't nothing, no, absolutely. Tiktok or Instagram for comparison. You can't use anybody's story as a comparison. Nothing, absolutely nothing. Yeah, you just don't compare yourself to others, because it really does suck the joy out of everything.
Speaker 2:Absolutely, and you can start getting worried about things, and what about this, what about that? And that's why your doctor, your doctor, your doctor, your doctor, your doctor. That is the person to have those chats with.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But anyway, so yeah, yeah, so that's been a journey, that has been a journey over the last five, six, six weeks, actually, is it?
Speaker 1:yeah, it must be so, anyway so are you just relieved to be back on it?
Speaker 2:now yes, massively, because weight oh god which we haven't spoke about.
Speaker 1:I know what you're going to talk about, go on yeah.
Speaker 2:So I knew, based on my lifetime of diets and when diets pause and all that kind of stuff, I knew there would be weight gain. I had hoped, or maybe if I could say the same, but when I quickly saw the way that my body was responding again when I come off the treatment, I knew my weight was going to go up. I wasn't overly concerned about this, though. You know I was down 95 pounds, was it, or whatever the case, at the start of the treatment.
Speaker 1:So you knew you had a few pounds to play around with.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I wasn't like. In the grand scheme of things, yeah. Like this isn't, it's not a sprint, like it's not a rush to do anything. You've done it so quickly anyway, yeah my body responded quickly yeah, so, like I wasn't in any rush to get anything Right, to achieve anything, but anyway. So over the space of the four, four hopeful weeks, four to five weeks, whatever it was, it ended up being that I regained 14 pounds in one stone. Yeah, easy, easy, not shocked.
Speaker 1:Not shocked by that at all.
Speaker 2:14 pounds, one stone yeah, easy, easy, not shocked not shocked by that at all if you are somebody who has not lived a life of relapsing with your weight, you could be shocked by a number of how in God's name could somebody?
Speaker 1:did you put up a stone? How did you put up a stone? What were you gorging on?
Speaker 2:and I understand why people can think that, but I think for those that are supporting patients like ourselves that are on this treatment, or for people that have lived with the life of relapsing. They will absolutely get how that happens and why that happens and they will not be stunned by that. They will not be stunned at all.
Speaker 1:They'll probably think oh god, I thought I'd be more now the other thing is I know I have always regained very quickly yeah, always, same, always, especially coming off of the back of eating well and healthy and doing all the things. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:The other thing is, though, I know I typically lose weight pretty quickly as well. Yeah, so I do so. Again, I'm not worried about any of that at all, and again, some people might believe me, but I'm genuinely not in any way, you know, it's ahead of you now, patty and if you had.
Speaker 1:If that happened to you, like last year, you'd put up. You'd put up a stone.
Speaker 2:In four weeks you'd be I would have gone, fuck this yep and that would have been a redapse yep, and you would have went worse absolutely yeah, and that could have been six months down.
Speaker 1:A fucking dark hole for you, 100%, 100%.
Speaker 2:But now I have my stabiliser to help me. Yes, again, like the other things over the past few weeks, like I haven't been able to do the gym, haven't been able to do like my swimming, my sauna, things that I love. So I am going to be able to restart the gym in, like the sun and stuff. So like I'm really excited by getting that. So that's. The other thing is that those kind of lifestyle interventions that people tell you to do, I just haven't been allowed to do them workouts because of the surgery and that so, literally, I've been allowed walk and I've been allowed rest that's it but
Speaker 1:that's okay, but like you know what, but it's what my body needed yeah, but it's also going to come to a lot of people yeah, yeah, yeah your journey that you've just gone through is going to come to an awful lot of people.
Speaker 2:Yeah, absolutely so but anyway, so that has been. It's a lot, paddy, yeah, but really interesting, really insightful for me, really, really insightful for me, really really insightful.
Speaker 1:I'm looking forward to hearing you like what you have to say about what's coming. You know the, the titration in the doses and how long you're getting suppression out of them and stuff.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because I'm going to follow it through. I am going to like, even if I'm going to go, like to the 10, to the 12.5 are you going to spend four weeks on each one? No. No you're just going to go one week each. That was the medical advice I got, that I could, because I'd been on 15 before that. It was safe for me to titrate up Quicker, kind of quicker, yes. So again, that's not me just pulling something out of the sky, that was advice that I got from.
Speaker 1:Sound advice yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2:Because again I went to four can I yeah, five different places asking for this.
Speaker 1:Yeah so if you go to say you're on 7.5 now, if in say if this lasts you for the week, then that's great, will you go straight into 10 without thinking, oh well, 7.5 has given me a little bit of if I got the week out of 7.5 is giving me a little bit of.
Speaker 2:If I got the week out of 7.5, I would do another week in 7.5. Got it? Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah.
Speaker 1:And then, when you go up to 10, Same, same.
Speaker 2:I'll do the same, yeah, yeah, you're not going to shoot back up again. No, no, no.
Speaker 1:You want to do the journey.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, I'm not in any rush. Let's see, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, that's. What you need to do is to work, because I've spoke to other people that had surgery, different types of surgery, different intensities, you know, different types of anesthetic, all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1:So yeah yeah, um, but yeah, that's been kind of my insight with and while you were going through that, did you reach out to anybody personally that has had an operation or anything?
Speaker 2:and so they reached out to me Right, okay, I had a number of people the days that I put up about the surgery itself, like I didn't put up a picture of me like in my bed in the hospital because I'm oh, you should have put it on. Facebook.
Speaker 1:No, it's one of my kind of little little icks yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's just yeah, but anyway social media icks, we both have them yeah now and that's not speaking bad of people to do that.
Speaker 2:It's just one of the things that, for me, I would see it an ick towards myself yeah but, so people reached out to you and told you their stories. Yes, right, yes. So stories? Yes, right, yes. So there was a good few people reached out that had different types of surgery under general anaesthetic and what their journey was like Again, different people that were told different amounts of time beforehand to stop, different amounts of time afterwards what the need for doses.
Speaker 2:So, even from the people I spoke with, I didn't get a general consensus of what it was different because, again, it's a personal journey and I genuinely mean that. That's where your doctor whoever you know works with you to determine what is the best healthcare approach for you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, um, it's not a blanket, is it exactly, exactly, um, but yeah, so that has been the last few weeks I am. I'm looking forward to getting back, you know, into my routine and say off, working out, off my food, all that kind of stuff. Um, again, and yeah, but no things have been good. It's been a very good few weeks, though.
Speaker 1:It has like, in fairness, like, and I think and you had some time off work as well had some time, which I didn't want, but the doctor made, you didn't yeah your job.
Speaker 2:Like people that know me will know how difficult that was for me.
Speaker 1:I am not good at sitting down like I'm not yeah yeah, for some people it's their sound it's like it doesn't sit well with me either yeah, some people are like oh my god, that sounds amazing, you get to sit down and do nothing.
Speaker 2:I'm like no, this is like hell to me. But like I'd say to the doctor oh, look at it. You know, I work from home, I use my laptop and still I was like, oh God. So that was very tough, psychologically, very tough. Waking up every day, because it was almost like I didn't have a purpose any day.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:Now I know my purpose was to heal. I do know that, but in terms of day, and it's not as if I could go out to the beach or I could go to the gym that I could walk, bearing in mind I had just finished a full month of doing 5k every day. So like walk.
Speaker 1:I know you were done with that as well, richard. Walking wasn't really one of the things, something you were missing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly, but but anyway, yeah, so that's been the last kind of six-ish weeks and is the podcast you were on well before that, because you spoke about me for a lot alright, okay.
Speaker 1:Well, nothing's happened in my life in the past month nothing.
Speaker 2:No, no, no. So talk to me about. You went on a podcast recently. Do you know when that is going to air? No, but I think it's probably going to be aired before this comes out okay so we can talk about that, yeah, okay so if people haven't heard the podcast or know of it, tell us what is the podcast first of all, and who is it with.
Speaker 1:Okay, so it's called the. Plus Sides podcast and Kim and Kath run it. It's an award-winning podcast.
Speaker 2:Is it Irish? No, it's American. Okay, cool.
Speaker 1:It's won so many awards over in the States and they are just so much fun. So, much fun. They're on their own journeys, their own medical weight loss journeys, and Bear is Kim's husband. I think he's on it as well. I think, yes, I think he is. Yeah and yeah, they were just really warm, really welcoming, brilliant, and we had loads of fun.
Speaker 2:And was it just you on it?
Speaker 1:No, just really warm, really welcoming, brilliant, and we had loads of fun. And was it just you on it? No, no, no, we had Dr Mick Crotty on there as well. We were so wooning. Yeah, oh God, the three of us. It was so funny Before he came on obviously, oh God I think at one stage I called him the oracle.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so Dr Mickrotty Is one of the people that we look up to and have done for a long time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's where we go to.
Speaker 2:So Dr McCrotty Was one of the first people Two and a half years ago, maybe more that I heard talking About obesity In a way that did not Make me feel Shamed, or guilted about something yeah. And it.
Speaker 1:So he runs my Best Weight. Yes, he's the founder of my Best Weight, which?
Speaker 2:is a multidisciplinary weight management service based in the Republic of Ireland.
Speaker 1:It's not fully multidisciplinary though.
Speaker 2:Like as in. Like, you can choose to meet with a dietitian. If you want, you can choose to meet with an exercise expert or you can choose to meet with an endocrinologist.
Speaker 1:Everybody's there health coaches, everything.
Speaker 2:But if you want them, yes, if you need them, so you could go and just meet with the doctor, with Mick, and kind of go through your kind of journey and get your treatment and care via him. But there is the kind of and again, this is now.
Speaker 2:I haven't been a patient, I've spoken to so many that are, though so it's kind of like okay, I'm, I'm on this journey, I'm working with this doctor. But you know what I'd like to add on? Maybe with a movement specialist and they, or with a dietician they have. Josh, they have their you know, yeah, so they have a few different kind of options there, but like I, but like I love the content that they put out. It is so just.
Speaker 1:He's so informative isn't he?
Speaker 2:And he's so eloquent in the way he speaks about it and so knowledgeable.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he told his story about how he got into it and I'd love to talk to him about that someday actually.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I totally would have been a fanboy about it.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, we totally were yeah.
Speaker 2:Because I even like, on the way down here, I was re-listening to his interview on TV3, a Persian media. Oh, it's going to be TV3. I know yeah, On Ireland AM. And again, it's just. It's so nice to hear people speaking in such an easy way to understand about the disease of obesity and trying to change that narrative within society and within healthcare and advocating for it.
Speaker 1:And that's what he's all about. Yeah, it is, he's all about it.
Speaker 2:So I'm very jealous.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm very jealous.
Speaker 2:Well, you Well anyway. So so what can I think? I don't really come to that, but what kind of bits did you get to talk?
Speaker 1:about.
Speaker 2:We spoke about it. I can barely remember now. To be honest, I'm a bit jealous of the podcast in America because they have such strong say free speech yes, they are.
Speaker 1:They can literally say what they like.
Speaker 2:Say anything in Ireland for people that don't know. In Ireland it is very governed, it's very strict the area and we're finding that out very strict. Yeah, yeah, it's, it's very strict um especially around social media especially on social media.
Speaker 2:And yeah, I think it's going to be an interesting kind of few months and a few years ahead in ireland, but anyway, in in america, you know there's there's a lot of things that people mightn't be admiring at the moment. But anyway, we're not going down that rabbit hole. But it is one of the things that I think is interesting is kind of like their free speech thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I think the biggest thing we spoke about was access to the medication.
Speaker 2:Because it's so expensive there.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Well.
Speaker 1:And how it's? It's not. It's not health care, it's wealth care.
Speaker 2:But and it'd be interesting to see though but it's the same here now, paddy. Well, this is what I was going to say.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's exactly the same here. If you can't afford that medication for the disease of obesity, then you're not getting it. You're absolutely not getting it here, and it's the same over in the States as well, except at least they can get their insurance to cover. Yeah, different insurance groups cover some of them won't cover others, but nobody will cover anything over here. Yeah, you know, it's so unfair. And they're, they're just. That's just because people still do not recognize obesity as a disease the same as every other disease.
Speaker 2:But sure we see that in our social media comments every day, yes, especially on TikTok it's wild, tiktok it's wild it's wild over there. Tiktok is the wild west, alright scares the shit out of me. It's gas, but yeah, no, definitely there is still like, and I even did a video about it recently because I had a comment on TikTok about oh, I lost three stone and you just need to you know, do movement and focus on your thing. Essentially, you eat less, move more, that's all you need to do.
Speaker 2:And I just thought of it. First of all, fair play to you on losing three stone that is amazing. Absolutely, you know. But unfortunately some people have a relapsing disease which is, you know, impacting them lifelong and for, for those people, your approach of just eat less, move more, may not be an effective intervention for them.
Speaker 2:you know, and we have, we have data to kind of to see that and to back that up yeah, so okay, so that podcast might be out now, we think by the time this one comes out yeah, yeah, I'm sure she'll let me know I just haven't, but again, what's it called?
Speaker 1:plus side, plus sides podcast yes, it's kim and kath and they're on instagram as well, all of their um, all of their podcasts are actually on instagram, cool, and they I think they did one the other night as well. They did it live. I haven't managed to keep up or see it yet or listen to it, but it was about, um, glp1 babies. Oh, okay, people that had lost so much weight and was able to go on and get pregnant and have more babies.
Speaker 2:Okay, okay, okay so.
Speaker 1:I'm looking forward to listening to that as well. Cool cool.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, nice one, but it is a thing you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, cool, so that was the podcast.
Speaker 1:That was it. Yeah, that's kind of all that's really happened, to be honest.
Speaker 2:You're still in the gym.
Speaker 1:God, yes, I'm still in the gym. Brilliant, do you know?
Speaker 2:what I am so happy Like we're now two and a half months nearly since you started the gym. It is Because it was before Christmas. Yep, 14th of December, my mother's birthday, thinking at the time this woman's mad starting this just before.
Speaker 1:Christmas and I kind of stopped drinking as well well, I've had a couple of fucking bad nights on it since then, but yeah, are you having a drink tonight? Yeah, I probably only have one glass, though, okay check back later.
Speaker 2:No, no, check the Instagram stories later folks.
Speaker 1:Paddy, what time is it? It's ten past seven.
Speaker 2:I can't wait to go to bed okay, calm down, it's not that type of podcast. The only reason I came up here was to get a bit of peace and quiet okay, I thought you were going to say you're going somewhere, you need to come up here oh god, there's way too many, way too many connotations, yeah but, yes, the gym, absolutely flying it in the gym.
Speaker 1:And have I done anything else? I've been really consistent with my Pilates and I'm so fucking strong in my Pilates now so strong. Eimear, my Pilates instructor even said it to me, and I think I did over a minute plank, which I've never done in three years so I I would struggle with a minute plank.
Speaker 1:Like I would would struggle with a minute plank. Yeah, like I would really struggle with a minute plank, yeah, yeah, we could do a minute plank now. I couldn't. I couldn't take my shoes off for you now, paddy, I'm so tired oh god but um yeah, so that's going really really well.
Speaker 1:And again, I spoke to Eimear last week, my platties instructor, and she's going to come on and I'm going to have a little chat with her and we're going to record it as well. Yeah, just around, maybe did you record did you record a podcast before?
Speaker 2:with who?
Speaker 1:with Eimear twice, nope, no three times and I'm still mortified about it three times we tried to record the podcast the first time I couldn't hear her audio on it, the second time I couldn't hear my audio on it, and then the third time it just didn't record gosh so what we've decided to do the next time is you're going to come on? Oh, am I oh no, you're not going to be in the podcast. You're just going to be coming on to make sure everybody's talking properly into proper things and it's recording.
Speaker 1:I know, oh, we know it's rude. We're fully aware tough shit but yeah, that's kind of been it. Really, I'm doing my aqua aerobics and what else fitting into clothes better. That's what I've been doing. I took three tops out of the wardrobe this morning to get something nice to wear, and three of them just yeah, didn't fit me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I had. I had stuff pulled out to wear down here and I put it on me and I was like I was fucking hanging off me. Yeah, do you know? Yeah, and do you?
Speaker 1:know what the really weird thing is is that, like I'm losing a pound here and a pound there and whatever, but I'm not losing pounds compared to my inches yes, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2:am I saying that right? Yeah, yeah, so your body is changing shape.
Speaker 1:Oh my god my body is changing shape. So much now. Actually, somebody commented on instagram today, my, my friend Harper from I think it's Florida, she's from, I think she'll probably you know if I get that wrong, anyway and she said that she could see the definition in my legs, even on Instagram, and I was delighted with myself.
Speaker 2:And this is where. So I'm going to take that? Yeah, no, absolutely. And this, like I haven't looked at your, you know, yeah, I'll show them to you later on wrong tree hell, yeah, sean, you're just not thinking, oh god it's getting late, paddy, but yeah, but but that's where that body competition thing. And then that comes back to health, because you're focusing on health and you're focusing on muscle and you're focusing on your muscle health.
Speaker 1:And your body health.
Speaker 2:Over a number on the scales, which is so much more healthy?
Speaker 1:Yeah, it is, and it's so freeing as well and honestly my coach from the gym Text to say that your next in body scan is due. And I said, oh my God, really, I just felt like I just did that. And she said, no, that was four weeks ago and I was there. Like, do I want to do? I don't want to know anything about my weight, I really don't. So I might just not bother looking and she can just give me the information about my fat loss and my muscle gain.
Speaker 1:Yeah, now she said it won't be, as it usually isn't as good as the first time that you start. Yeah that's the same with losing weight, yeah yeah. We'll see how that goes as well. That's exciting yeah it's really exciting for everyone.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so then a week ago or so, just over a week ago from when we were recording this, I was out in Donnybrook in RTE.
Speaker 1:That's right.
Speaker 2:For the Late Late Show. So, for people outside of Ireland, the Late Late Show is the world's longest running chat show. Yep. So it is, believe it or not, and the current host is Patrick Keelty, who is married to Kath Deely. Is that right?
Speaker 1:Oh, is it, Is it?
Speaker 2:Have I made that up?
Speaker 1:Oh no, kath, no way, kath Deely, no way, she's English, isn't she? Yeah, yeah, no, she's with your man, the tall, dark-haired fella. Am I right? I don't know.
Speaker 2:I'm quickly googling here. Yeah yeah, spouse, cat Dealey oh Married in 2012.
Speaker 1:Oh, she's a blonde girl. Yeah, I thought she was married to some host.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Chat show host in the UK.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, so there you go, but yes, he's quite good.
Speaker 1:He's a good presenter.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I was invited out as part of the publicity for a TV documentary that I am on. I know we've alluded to this. I don't think we've really spoke about it, though we weren't allowed? No, so we haven't really spoke about it. So last August God was it. Like three and a half four or three, I don't know how many stone ago, maybe three, was it Like three and a half four?
Speaker 1:or three, I don't know how many stone ago, maybe three stone ago. Oh yeah, of course, yeah, oh.
Speaker 2:I filmed a documentary for RTE.
Speaker 1:Can I just intersect? Yeah, I was also invited on and I said no.
Speaker 2:But, like it was, a life was in a different place for you.
Speaker 1:Life's in a different place for you Biggest mistake in my life so far, but look at it.
Speaker 2:There'll be more opportunities.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, yes, it'll be fine.
Speaker 2:Actually, that was another thing we never talked about. Newstalk. Oh yes, oh my God, yeah. So last August I filmed with Catherine Thomas and her lovely producer Judy, and they came down for a couple of days down to where I live and they did a bit of filming in the radio station where I work catherine thomas is very um famous in ireland.
Speaker 1:Yes, as well.
Speaker 2:Yeah, um, yeah, so we did a good bit of filming, uh, just about my journey, about, um, my experience with uh manjaro, about how I was accessing it, because obviously it wasn't available in the Republic of Ireland at that time. So, yeah, so, like, we covered quite a bit. Obviously, I don't know how much is going to make the show yeah, yeah, how much you're going to be in it but like I didn't realise that it's two one hour shows oh, yeah, with the breaks and that pattern, yeah, but that's still a decent amount of air time but you actually had Johan Harry as well yeah, yeah, yeah done.
Speaker 2:A lot of work has gone into this. A lot of work has gone into it so. I believe it's mostly episode 2. I think it is that I'm in, but the ads for it are on at the moment and I'm on the ads yeah, which is nice, and Ashley is on the ads as well yes, ashley is on the podcast. Yeah, absolutely, ashley's in Dublin at the moment with the what's the show.
Speaker 1:Future Beauty Show.
Speaker 2:Future Beauty Show but we'll meet up in Dublin and we'll be yeah, we will, we'll go up to her but yeah. So I was invited out to RT just to give a bit of a contribution because Catherine Thomas was going to be on the Late, late Show talking about the show, yeah, and who were you Go on. With Professor Doctor Donal O'Shea, who is like one of the most kind of I'd say respected and kind of senior people, obesity wise, within the HSE.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but he is the lead, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:And he is somebody who has been involved with like both GLP-1 and obesity for like decades decades yeah. And we were in the. I brought my sister with me, frances, and we were in the green room out in RTE, which is where, like, I was kind of waiting before you'd be brought out for your little bit and I just looked and like Paddy was fanboying, I wasing, I was I was like oh my god, there's Donal Shea beside me.
Speaker 2:There's Donal Shea, I really respect. I really respect that man, really respect that man like, he's like, oh god tell everybody what you didn't do what didn't I do you didn't tell them about our podcast no, because it wasn't appropriate it's always appropriate. I am not like that.
Speaker 1:I can't.
Speaker 2:Oh my god, it's the most appropriate thing.
Speaker 1:You could have spoken. I would have went right in there for the juggler.
Speaker 2:I'm surprised you're not telling me off for telling Patrick Kielty that we'd run on the Little Eight show did you not mention her?
Speaker 1:did you not tell Patrick Kielty that we'd run?
Speaker 2:on, did you not watch? Yes, of course I did no so anyway, Anyway, we were in and, yeah, like he you know, don't know what didn't and was in the green room as well and sat down with myself and my sister got to chat to him for, like, maybe I don't know four to five minutes beforehand after we make up, did you have a drink and like just mingle and stuff, yeah, yeah yeah, well, like water and still crisps and stuff, but yeah, just such such a like tick box kind of.
Speaker 2:Oh my god, this was on my list of people I would love to sit down and have a conversation with and did you speak about? Did. You spoke a little bit about my journey, my experience, some about his and stuff like that, and then just random life stuff. So I, it was just amazing, like such. I would have totally went into interview mode no, like such I would have totally went into interview mode.
Speaker 1:No, you tried not to, did you? No, I was just no, it was just in the moment.
Speaker 2:In the moment, yeah just for what it was, yeah, so that was really nice. It was just brilliant, absolutely brilliant, got a lovely picture of myself and himself and Catherine afterwards. Yeah, yeah, yeah a picture of me and Patrick Healty yeah but yeah. So again, by the time this podcast airs, if you missed it, it is called the Skinny Jab Revolution, which I know is going to divide people.
Speaker 1:What did you think of the name?
Speaker 2:So there's a couple of things here and again. I'm coming at this from a slightly different angle, in terms of somebody that I guess has been involved in media for many, many years and somebody that has been on the Biggest Loser.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So I get the way a little bit, the way telly works.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, I get that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, TV is ultimately a source of entertainment.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and it's sensationalized, isn't it?
Speaker 2:If I was doing a documentary on what I call the skinny jab, I wouldn't. But I get why they did because you want something that is going to get people's attention. Society for the most part part is calling these skinny jabs yeah you know, rightly and wrongly and I think this were even on the documentary you know there is discussion about how this is not what they're. They're not a skinny jab you know we know this, so it is using terminology that the average person on the street is using yeah as a and on social media, exactly as opposed to saying this is what they're called.
Speaker 1:Yeah, if you get me, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I do absolutely get it, because if you put up the GLP-1 revolution, nobody would even click in. People are like, what are you talking about? Like, yeah, what are you on about?
Speaker 2:So you know, I'm hoping that with an eye-catching name like that so I totally get it yeah yeah, you know, and you know we mentioned it on social media. You know there was mixed messages about oh, but oh. You know Catherine Thomas, she was involved in Operation Transformation.
Speaker 1:Such a horrible show she was not, she was a presenter, she was a presenter.
Speaker 2:And the other thing, again like Operation Transformation, very similar parallels to the Biggest Loser in many, many ways, and I've said before I would jump at the chance to do it again, 100%, because again, I think people are missing that. It is an entertainment show, but it's also as a way to try and inspire people. You go and look during the month of January, when Operation Transformation is in, how many communities are out there, walking out there doing exercises, doing community initiatives.
Speaker 1:So it was brilliant for that, wasn't it?
Speaker 2:absolutely, and people will talk about all but the you know parade people around there with their top offer and lycra as do you know who I didn't like on it oh, I think I know you're going to say yeah, dr Ava, yeah, I wouldn't have.
Speaker 1:She was dreadful.
Speaker 2:I wouldn't have been a big fan of her.
Speaker 1:I don't want to for people to say just because we like Catherine Thomas and we thought that was great.
Speaker 2:We certainly, I didn't I would never, yeah, she wouldn't be on my Christmas card yeah, definitely not. I would love to have a conversation with her yeah, I don't think I'd be able.
Speaker 2:I probably shouldn't ever have a conversation with her because, again, I do find people that I disagree with intriguing to talk to, yeah, and where they're coming from. Yeah, I do find it, so I might mud over that one em that'd be brilliant. Yeah, yeah, I'll leave you to it, because the thing is like with a podcast like this, it's important that it's not just our narrative that we challenge ourselves what we think as well, and that's important, you know. But anyway, I know.
Speaker 2:I know, I know, I know because I could literally go on for an hour about that but like I have to say that during the entire experience, both filming off, you know, off camera, between filming and kind of now in the show coming out, judy and Catherine were and again Judy was producer the most warm, welcoming, supportive, caring, non-judgmental were and again, due to his producer, the most warm, welcoming, supportive, caring, non-judgmental space was created for me.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And a really a really healthy curiosity.
Speaker 1:About it.
Speaker 2:About my experience.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And about how it was impacting me, how it was being beneficial to me. You know all that kind of stuff, yeah, and I'm sure there's, you know, would have been people on it that would have had the opposite because, again, you know, these treatments don't work for everyone and some people would have bad side effects and some people they will not work for at all, some people can't afford them. So I'd hope that there is that balance in it as well, to kind of share that. But yeah, I'm excited to see. I don't like watching myself on telly, I don't like listening back to myself which is ironic given that I work in radio as well and do the podcast. I do not like listening or seeing myself, but I'll be curious to see what Well?
Speaker 1:everything else as well, apart from yourself.
Speaker 2:It was really nice because I got to film in my local gym in Sligo as well.
Speaker 1:Rom, and she came into your home as well.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah as well. Yeah, yeah, came in and made lunch, literally like made lunch. So how? Many cameramen and audios one so we had Catherine, we had Judith, the producer, and we had the cameraman, kind of sound man whose name I cannot for the life of me remember. So apologies, apologies oh, so that was nice then yeah, it wasn't too overwhelming now the amount of cleaning that went on in the house obviously.
Speaker 2:I would like to say that I can take all the credit my poor husband Peter. He scrubbed the house within an inch of his life.
Speaker 1:Oh my god, because Catherine was coming.
Speaker 2:Yes, yeah, it's like Daniel's coming, oh, daniel's coming. It was like, oh my god, I wouldn't have her in my house 4k, whatever, I'm sure cameras, and it's like, oh my god a little bit of dust. Yeah, oh, my god, pick up everything. The house was tidy for about a week yeah and then just went again yeah, I hope my, I hope other people's houses are the same, because well, I wouldn't have brought her into my house.
Speaker 1:There's no way I would have brought three kids, two dogs and Sean. Are you joking me?
Speaker 2:yeah, there's only me, peter and the cat yeah, I know, but still I know.
Speaker 1:Still, yeah, we're all the same but anyway.
Speaker 2:So the other thing we were both on a radio news talk, yeah, news talk together, which is really really reputable yeah, it's a national radio station, independent radio station, yep, and they were doing a piece about the release of Manjaro in the Republic of Ireland. Yeah, and that is up on Instagram, is it? I have it up on. Yeah, it's up on Instagram.
Speaker 1:We should put that on our what's it called as well. Youtube.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, the whole bit, yeah, but yeah, he was Ciarán.
Speaker 1:Cuddy Ciarán, cuddy, yeah, he was the presenter, he Kieran.
Speaker 2:Cuddy Kieran.
Speaker 1:Cuddy, yeah, he was the presenter, he's really good.
Speaker 2:He does the drive time in the evening. I listen to that show like I genuinely listen to that I do as well. I always have news talk.
Speaker 1:I'm sort of Sean. Yeah, I never did before until I met Sean, but I do find it interesting the older I'm getting. You know that kind of way. Yeah, I'm only joking.
Speaker 2:I heard you yeah, yeah, yeah did you say it louder.
Speaker 1:But yeah, it was really good and he was really genuinely intrigued because we were concerned, we had spoke beforehand, we were very concerned.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we thought, because I said to you before why are they bringing two people on that? Have two same positive, mostly positive experiences?
Speaker 1:Yeah, and who is going to be on the other line? Yes, yeah.
Speaker 2:Because not like an experience you had before.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I've been caught rotten before.
Speaker 2:So but no, it was a very kind of healthy discussion.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was Healthy discussion and he had a healthy curiosity about it and we got to tell our story and that was the end of it discussion. Yeah, it was, and he had a healthy curiosity about it and it we got to tell our story and that was the end of it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, which?
Speaker 1:I was not expecting at all. Yeah, because the last time I went on a news program I thought I was going on to tell my story and the next minute bang, the most horrendous man was on the other line and I was just ambushed.
Speaker 2:Were you in the Oval Office, moving swiftly along.
Speaker 1:Yeah, ambushed and just bombarded. It was horrendous. So I think but I'm over that now because I've spoken to other people now and it's fine but yeah, lesson learned. Yeah, yeah, yeah, big lesson learned.
Speaker 2:And I think it's I say for me, I always expect, if I'm doing any kind of media stuff and if I'm telling a positive thing, yeah, you know, or you there is, I'm expecting yeah, the complete opposite. Either come from the presenter or a guest or something.
Speaker 1:Yeah, now, I did speak to the producer of the news talk show and I asked him who else is going to be there. Are you going to have anybody else speaking about the other side of it. Are you going to have any experts on? And he said yeah, but I think later in the show, ok, ok, yeah, yeah, but it was a fair experience. Extremely reputable compared to the other.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so that was good, yeah, and that's yeah. Yeah, and then there's something else, though, isn't there. I recorded a podcast the other day, oh yeah, we'll talk about that now.
Speaker 1:Well, I think with yours, if it's not, I'll edit it out. Yeah, but you no, but yours, that's coming out Monday.
Speaker 2:As far as I'm aware, unless something changes, yeah, again, it should be out. Yeah, again it should be out. Yeah, so I am.
Speaker 1:So jealous Fan, massive fan, I'll just gasp, yeah.
Speaker 2:So one of my good friends is Alan Clarke. Big news coming soon with Alan Clarke and.
Speaker 1:Name drop Jesus Paddy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like myself and Alan have been friends, I'd say maybe 20-something years. That long, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, wow, okay, yeah, and 20, god I don't know 25 years maybe and that's the name of his podcast big news coming soon.
Speaker 1:Big news coming soon, yeah he is just he's an animal for social media.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's so good like yeah, it all kind of kicked off over like a donkey video. That's right, yeah, yeah, yeah on social media yeah he was taking the piss, wasn't he? And he's won like gossies and podcast awards and all this kind of stuff he hosts massive shows and everything, and he's had his cookie gin yeah, cookie gin his dog, yeah, yeah, lots of stuff, and he has a book and stuff like that and his northern hemisphere is it.
Speaker 2:He had a brand Northern Hemisphere that he was involved with and stuff like that. But yeah, but I say it's so. Alan has said multiple times to me must do a podcast, must do a podcast. I'm like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, must do a podcast, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, like literally quite a few times.
Speaker 1:Because you said this to me six months ago, I know, yeah.
Speaker 2:So anyway, last week he was like'm free. Tomorrow, I'm free the next day, I'm free, blah, blah, blah. And he's like okay tomorrow. And I was like, okay, I'll be grand, I'll spin down to you, we can catch up and we'll do the podcast. So we did so how?
Speaker 1:long were you in there talking?
Speaker 2:I think the final edit was like over two and a half hours.
Speaker 1:So God love that's so easy though, isn't it?
Speaker 2:it is yeah, particularly as we know each other so long and stuff like that, and he's somebody that I massively respect and trust and admire in terms of his entrepreneurial spirit and his get up and go and Determination. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but he's the reason I like his podcast is he always starts from the very beginning.
Speaker 2:Yeah, doesn't he? And we did as well.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like the very beginning like it's like who are you Just?
Speaker 2:who are you?
Speaker 1:just who are you? Tell me exactly who you are. Where did you go to school? What was your life like? Yeah, yeah so yeah.
Speaker 2:So if you're interested in me talking more random stuff with one of my mates, go and check out Alan Clarke's Big News Coming Soon podcast and wait to hear it it'll probably have been a couple of weeks ago or I'm not sure when that's coming out, but anyway, you'll find me there oh well, we'll put it up on Instagram and do you know?
Speaker 2:what's random as well is that, literally, I would say, within like five minutes of me having been chatting to Alan the day before, kind of confirming we're doing the podcast, someone randomly sent him a photo from one of my reels on the a dose of paddy uh page right, whereby I have a split second I I'm doing. It's my reel about, I think, regaining nine stone, or something like that oh yeah and I'm I'm throwing like I in that.
Speaker 2:I show some old photos from like early 2000s and alan's in one of them. Oh, now somebody took a screenshot of that and sent it to Alan and was like is this the day before, literally within minutes of me having spoke to him.
Speaker 1:Oh, and that's weird and I said, is this Over the phone like? Like in Instagram in his DMs no, no, no, when he was booking you in yeah, so within minutes of him booking me for the podcast yeah he got this DM from somebody that follows is that you?
Speaker 2:that follows both of us and said to Alan is this you? Yeah, and then we were very confused what?
Speaker 1:and it was pure coincidence mad your coincidence so that's how long you know him long time, long, long time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, how did you know him? Long time.
Speaker 1:Long, long time. Yeah, yeah. How did you start? How did you get to know him? Were you in school with him?
Speaker 2:No, no, no, no, no. He used to DJ at discos that I used to go to.
Speaker 1:He did yeah.
Speaker 2:And then we just I used to DJ as well.
Speaker 1:Oh, right, okay.
Speaker 2:Back in the day and then I was working. Just became friends over that, yeah yeah, yeah, nice.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's good. I'm really looking forward to hearing it.
Speaker 2:Actually, yeah, he's great let me know what it's like you are.
Speaker 1:No, you will, you will. Will you not listen?
Speaker 2:I will. I will yeah, oh no, it's awful, isn't it? Listen to yourself.
Speaker 1:I hate it as well yeah, I don't mind doing it on instagram with my story if I'm checking my stories whether because you can flick through it so quickly. Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2:but yeah, but yeah anything else at the moment. So, looking ahead to season two, I know we've called this episode one. Maybe it should have been like episode zero or something, but anyway, we we won't name any of the people that we're talking to because we still have to book in the dates. But I'm super excited at some of the people that we're talking to because not that people haven't spoke to them before, but we haven't spoke to them and we haven't been able to ask them the questions that we want to ask them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, which will be very different.
Speaker 2:And people that we hugely admire and respect within the field of kind of weight management and wellness.
Speaker 1:Medical.
Speaker 2:But also something that's really important to us for this season is the community aspect of things, yes, and hearing that's really good.
Speaker 2:Hearing community stories. It's not just always our story, yeah, but that we are getting to talk to people that have been on their own journeys good and bad, yeah and get to hear the insides of it, yeah, and we've got, actually, since the last season, we've got quite a few emails from people as well, which has been brilliant. If you want to email us, it is hello. At the dose dot, I e also got some random messages of people asking things via the podcast, which is gas, but anyway. So we have some great guests that we will have coming up both as a kind of medical world and non-medical world from the community place.
Speaker 1:I'm really I'm so looking forward to it. Yeah, I am. I really am. Yeah, it's going to be brilliant.
Speaker 2:But anyway, anything else, belinda, that we need to cover today. What time is our dinner Like? In less than an hour.
Speaker 1:Oh, right, okay.
Speaker 2:So we've time for, like a fizzy orange fuck fizzy orange go here you said you were having one drink tonight.
Speaker 1:I am going to have a drink. I am one drink responsibly everybody yes are you sure we don't have anything to speak about? I think that's everything well, I you know what I wanted to talk about. Actually, it's too much of a big conversation to kind of get fuck you an hour ago she had nothing to fucking talk about.
Speaker 2:And then I can't shut her up. You're like someone at the end of a meeting in work oh, actually I do have a question?
Speaker 1:yeah, yeah, yeah well, maybe we'll talk about this on another podcast. It's just about what our future like my future and your future looks like, like in Hollywood two three looks like like in Hollywood. Three, four years time on medication, hollywood, where do we see? Look, mate, I'm going to like I'm surprised.
Speaker 2:I'm surprised we haven't had a film about us yet. I know, yeah, like I'd be like or a book or something like I'd be Liberace. Okay, captain, who would? Who would you be? Who would? So who would play you?
Speaker 1:no, I would. Who would play you? Um, no, I would. Who would play me?
Speaker 2:Yeah, who would play you In a Hollywood movie? Oh?
Speaker 1:my god, who would play me?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:No, couldn't answer that.
Speaker 2:Dunno.
Speaker 1:No, couldn't answer that.
Speaker 2:Who would play me? Obviously.
Speaker 1:George Clooney, obviously.
Speaker 2:Like I get mistaken for him, though, like even coming down here To Limerick, yeah. People firm, though, like even coming down here to limerick yeah, people said coming in, coming into the hotel. They're like mr clooney, do you want an espresso?
Speaker 1:yeah, were they patty really in my because I remember. I remember very differently I will say though that our stories today? Just absolutely. There are so many comments and just yeah, yeah, and it's so funny and that wasn't planned it wasn't planned, absolutely under no circumstances.
Speaker 2:I saw your first post about getting ready and it was all kind of and I was yeah, I was literally just out of the shower starting to get ready as well and I was like I'm gonna take her down. I'm going to latch on this and show the man side of getting ready, so I am. So we'll try and save them. Actually, we'll save them. Yes, we'll save them, and we'll link them in the description of this podcast yes, but also we need to save them in order, because Instagram are yours in order.
Speaker 1:Mine are still not in order. Yeah, instagram really fucked up today. No, it wasn't you. It happened to you as well, but you know you're. You're just in denial.
Speaker 2:You fixed yours quicker no, mine uploaded all of them twice.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but in order yeah, but mine, some of mine, uploaded five times yeah, which was really weird. Swear to god, it wasn't me absolutely not.
Speaker 2:Yeah cool, yeah, I think that's. I think that's been a good life update on people how long have we been at that now about an hour is it? Yeah, just under like an hour and 13 we're recording. There's a bit at the start we'll have to take out, but yeah, over an hour yeah, cool, we're done then we're due, okay. So does that mean I get to play the music?
Speaker 1:yes, okay oh, we should have had a drink.
Speaker 2:We should have got a drink, paddy of what you have water, oh yes, sorry water oh, it's gone now the music is playing.
Speaker 1:I can't even hear it. Can't even hear it. It's in his headphones oh, dear, folks that was great. That was great. Well done, paddy, and it was so good to have you in person doing the podcast. We may not do it for another long fucking time.
Speaker 2:Do you know what I agree? It was absolutely amazing to have you here in person.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you're just, you know the best. You just don't stop, do you?
Speaker 2:Just like a little energizer bunny.
Speaker 1:Get me out of here. Get me out of here now. Right, bunny, get me over here get me out of here now, right? Okay, you're on your own now, see ya all right, folks.
Speaker 2:Thank you so much. I'm out of here again.
