The Dose with Paddy and Belinda
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The Dose with Paddy and Belinda
Food Noise, Oprah and Paddy finds a new bone 👀
Todays episode (sorry we're late) is a pick n mix of conversation, starting with a chat about food noise, onto Belinda's recent mile stone on Social Media, and also shares a glimpse of her experience with Overeaters Anonymous. Paddy shares an update on how much Lean Body mass he has lost in the last four months from his DEXA scan and also .... Paddy finds a new bone 👀
All this plus lots of random chats and bants ! This episode is the 2nd last episode in Season 1 of The Dose.
Combined Paddy & Belindas weight loss totals over 170lbs supported by GLP1 Medications Ozempic & Mounjaro.
None of the content in this episode is to be treated as medical advice or promotion towards any specific treatment or medication - this is a sharing of a personal journey. Always seek out personal support from your GP / Medical Care team before beginning or changing any aspect of your healthcare.
We are not medically qualified - simply sharing our insights based on our journeys so far. Paddy is a Qualified Personal Trainer & Nutritional Coach.
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It is Monday today when we're recording this, Belinda.
Speaker 2:Thank God, it's not Thursday, paddy. Thank God, thank God, it's not Thursday, paddy, thank God.
Speaker 1:Thank God it's not Thursday for many reasons.
Speaker 2:Feels a little bit like a Thursday.
Speaker 1:I feel like I've whiplash.
Speaker 2:So many things been thrown at you.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, Talk about juggling, it's yeah I wouldn't even notice.
Speaker 2:Full-time job. Oh God, I tell you Anyway, I will say, though, that social media and the podcast, and replying to hundreds of comments a day is slightly turning into a full-time job. It is it is, it is yeah, it is mental, you have to love it yeah, it is mad.
Speaker 1:So it is the amount of engagement that we're getting overall. Some of the most common questions. I know you get these as well but, like first of all people looking for medical advice, you need to talk to your doctor or a prescriber, whichever depending on where you're listening from and how you're accessing medication, you need to talk to your doctor or your prescriber. Anything anything to do with your dose, changing it, side effects, all that we can share our experience, experience off what we have or have not had, but everybody's biology is different. Um belinda, you have just hit 20 000 followers on instagram?
Speaker 2:I did and I found out by accident. How did you find out by accident? I wasn't even watching, I wasn't even looking, I didn't know what was going on and I pressed into my, you know, to have a look at my engagement and stuff yeah and I was like oh, 20,000, how long has that been there? I never, I never look at my following like it's not. No, I don't generally yeah.
Speaker 2:I actually never even look at my engagement because, yeah, my little fella Jay is more concerned about my followers because he thinks I'm a superstar. Like he doesn't even know what I talk about, which you are. Obviously you are. He thinks I'm great. Do you know? The same way? My cat does yes, because I feed her yeah obviously Beetlejuice.
Speaker 1:You know, that's my cat's name. In case you didn't know that my cat's name is Beetlejuice and you have a cushion with Beetlejuice.
Speaker 2:Beetlejuice I do.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's in the cat's corner yeah so the cat's corner is where our blanket is.
Speaker 2:Is that a song, paddy? Cat's corner no what cat's Cat's corner?
Speaker 1:No, it's cats in the cradle. Oh, that's a different song. Yeah, that's different the cat's corner.
Speaker 2:No, don't, don't, no, we do not have the headspace For new music.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm not at 20,000, I'm at 2,477. Who?
Speaker 2:How many?
Speaker 1:2,477. Who.
Speaker 2:How many? 2,477.
Speaker 1:On Instagram. Yeah, what, yeah? Now stop Give over. Why did you think I'd more?
Speaker 2:I thought you were up like 8, 9,000.
Speaker 1:On Instagram. No, on TikTok. Yeah, not on Instagram.
Speaker 2:Paddy, I've just seen the picture you put up of yourself. Look at you. No, not that one, the one before it hang on the one in some kind of skinny mill ink in your thingy this morning?
Speaker 1:was it in the lift?
Speaker 2:yeah, yeah yeah, jesus, well done yeah thank you people must be like stunned, to see you in real life.
Speaker 1:That yeah I've met some people, uh, recently that I haven't seen in a while, and they're just like oh my god, oh my god, I'm like yeah, and again. I know we spoke about this last week when we were talking about body image, but definitely my head even today and yesterday, like looking in the mirror. All I'm seeing is, oh, there's still fat there, or fat there or fat there.
Speaker 2:Oh, paddy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:And I'm not going to say to you don't do that, don't say that, because what's the point? Yeah, yeah, yeah, you have to be able to.
Speaker 1:But equally, I know that is part of the process and getting the head kind of tied in with it and stuff like that, and I know I have lost a significant amount of weight.
Speaker 2:So I do know that I do, of course you're only pounds away from a hundred pound loss, paddy.
Speaker 1:That's phenomenal yeah, like seven half stone, half stone away well, I'd say you're probably gone over that now.
Speaker 2:Sorry, you're closer to it now could be, don't know. I can't remember when I weighed last, sometime last week and just to catch up on last week as well, if people haven't listened to last week's podcast. We spoke about Paddy coming off of Monjaro so close to his hundred pound loss yeah and just that Paddy is going to have an operation, and in two weeks time, less than two weeks time now like Thursday week yeah. Thursday week.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so by the time, this podcast comes out, it'll be a week from it. Yeah, yeah, thursday week. Yeah, so by the time this podcast comes out, it'll be a week from it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, exactly, yeah so that's a really, really interesting podcast as well. Yeah, and Paddy, what do you think? When do you think you're going to feel the last dose kick in?
Speaker 1:The last dose kick out even. Yeah, I think I would be expecting Thursday next week, the day after surgery actually. So do you know? The surgery is probably going to be a good distraction.
Speaker 2:I was just going to say because you're going to be sore and you're going to be going into recovery and you're going to be going home and you're going to be taking care of yourself anyway yeah, so maybe it will be a nice for a few days anyway yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:So we'll see how it goes. We'll see how it goes, but yeah, but you're okay, you'll have your routine down. Yeah, yeah, be grand but there's a load more context in last week's episode, so please do listen yeah but Belinda.
Speaker 1:I was looking back over some of my old videos, so basically bigger picture here okay so, like the last seven months yeah, zoom out the last seven months obviously my journey has been very focused on my treatment and stuff like that, as we touched on kind of last week, the week before, I guess at least myself and you're not you're kind of in a similar space of kind of starting to think about, okay, what might maintenance look like for us and stuff like that. So I'm kind of thinking like to the future a lot more now. Um, so this is also where I'm kind of thinking about the whole kind of rebranding maybe, and stuff like this as well.
Speaker 1:So that's kind of stuff that's on my mind at the moment. So we'll, we'll see where that goes, we're going to pivot yeah, we'll see. We'll see.
Speaker 2:Um, I need to kind of see what makes sense for something that's, I think, certainly for me, because Ozempic Insights has been around now for two and a half years and I think, well, actually, by the time it comes to two and a half years, I'll have, touch wood, reached my goal of £103 loss. The £3 is only so I can go up and down three pounds at any given time. Um, but yeah, I think I think I'll um, just move move forward with it with that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah and but yeah, I know that's, that's one of the things, but anyway, when I was looking over the videos, one of the things that um, one of the videos that I re-watched that I hadn't re-watched in an awful long time was about food noise, and it's still something that get asked a lot about. Um, and trying to describe and stuff like that and it's very difficult to try and describe. So I would love to know from you how would you describe food noise?
Speaker 2:well, the first thing I'll say about food noise is I never knew I had it. I had never heard the term food noise. I thought every single person in the world was like me and I thought, when I was dieting and I had food noise, that that's the way every other person felt. So the only way I can describe it and I have described it in some of my videos Over the years that I've been on this was just God. It's really hard to talk about.
Speaker 1:It is. It's a difficult one to explain. It's really hard to talk about. Yeah.
Speaker 2:So, without getting too much into it. So the start of my day would have been waking up in the morning. Now keep in mind that I'm in the throes of dieting at this stage and I am riddled with anxiety about my food choices, about people seeing me eat, about trying to eat in private, about maybe binging, about hiding food in secret.
Speaker 2:That's what I was doing while I was in a diet phase, and I was in a diet and out of diet phases my whole life. Um, so my first thing in the morning, when my eyes would open, even before my eyes would open, I would think to myself what can I eat this morning for my breakfast that is not going to make me a hate myself, not going to make me make bad choices for the rest of the day? What am I going to eat that doesn't have a lot of sins in it or points in it? And then that's when my anxiety would start, before I even put my socks on or put my glasses on my anxiety around that would start and I would carry that anxiety in my stomach and in my brain all day long.
Speaker 2:It never fucking stopped for 30 goddamn fucking years. It didn't stop, paddy it didn't stop, and it was only when I injected my first injection, and two days later, that I thought to myself what the actual fuck is going on here like I.
Speaker 2:I even thinking back when I realized that it was gone. It gives me the shivers to think of all of that, every single bit of that stress, strain, anxiety, turmoil being gone from just one fucking medication. And I know that there are millions of people in this world out there walking around with that in their head and in their stomach morning, noon and night, because it affects your mental health, it affects your well-being, it affects you socially, it affects every aspect of your life. It really does, and that's all I have to say about that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like for me it's very similar in terms of I thought this was normal, like like I thought you thought you were the same as everybody else yeah, it is the thing like like I'd sit there and watch people eat their dinner and leave some and I'd be like how are you leaving? How?
Speaker 2:are you leaving?
Speaker 1:food, like how do you have that willpower? Or like I'd be constantly snacking throughout the day, and other people like no, I'm full or I'm okay and my hunger?
Speaker 2:I'm a grand. Yeah, I'm like I didn't know what that meant. What do you mean?
Speaker 1:there's food there it's yeah do you not like just see the food essentially and get this signal from your body that, oh, there's chocolate, oh, go get that. Oh, food, and I like this way I always describe it. For me is it was like a 24 7 radio playing in the back of my head, constantly spurting out um positive food and driving me to food, and just constantly having to give in to food. You know like it was just mad.
Speaker 2:And every single emotion, emotional reaction that I would have to anything.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it would turn me to food.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah so let's try and recreate it for people. I know we've kind of both covered this in different videos, uh online as well, but so what I want you to do, belinda, is you're going to count to uh 15 okay and I'll try and be the.
Speaker 1:The food noise, uh, as you're, as you're doing that so, and if you're listening, this genuinely, in my head at least, is what food noise was like that. No matter what I'm trying to concentrate on, no matter what conversation I was having, no matter what was going on, everything, absolutely everything, was shrouded with this constant chatter about food in my head. Everything, every single minute of every day. Okay so, belinda, get you to count to 15 in three, two, one, go. What's in the kitchen? Have you got food there? No, I need you to count out loud, belinda, oh sorry, so that people can see.
Speaker 2:The S-M-I-R.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, proper loud like 15, like, as in counting.
Speaker 2:Wait Go.
Speaker 1:One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen. Maybe for breakfast as well, I'll have some chocolate, that's exactly what it sounds like. That is yeah, we got there, we got there. Oh God, god, I don't fucking miss that patty like it's actually it, like it's just. I was listening as well over the weekend. Uh, I don't know if you had a chance yet there are two of the latest podcasts from oprah oprah, yeah, yeah, so I know there's some snippets off of going kind of viral where they're talking about and the treatments and wasn't it really?
Speaker 1:yeah, kind of a follow-on to the tv show from uh from last year and um, the first one is kind of catching up with people and checking in and talking more, like about psychology stuff and they've an endocrinologist there and they're talking more about the yeah, about the glp ones and that and then the second one is a really interesting topic about how people treat you different when you have lost weight.
Speaker 2:Of course.
Speaker 1:And one of Oprah's producers is there who talks exactly to this and, like, gives some examples of how have you listened to the second one?
Speaker 2:Is that what the second one's about this is?
Speaker 1:the second one. The second one yeah, he's on there and he's talking about how, versus when he was whatever 70, 80 pounds, whatever that's heavier than he is now versus now, how even little things like waiting in a queue in a hotel people will now, whereas before they wouldn't, or bits and pieces like that and there is.
Speaker 2:There is a school of thought around that as well, paddy, where people would say to you but if you're heavier, aren't you more resistant to speaking to people or to putting yourself out there? Or you're giving off the vibe that you don't want anyone to talk to you. You want to, like, go into the wall or the ground to open up and swallow you. And also, I find as well that I haven't lost some weight, that I am so much more confident and the way I stand, the way I hold myself, the way I present myself. There's all that as well. But that doesn't take away from the fact that people equate thinness with attractiveness and attractiveness. And yeah, of course, all that stuff, yeah and no.
Speaker 1:That point, though, is is really really true, because this is something he talks about as well in terms of when he had, um, a heavier weight, that absolutely he would have had more walls up around him to kind of stop engagement with people. 100 yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely but like this idea of food, noise like I know when I started my treatment and back those first few.
Speaker 2:So are you going to talk about how you knew you have when it stopped?
Speaker 1:yeah, because like it was like literally the first few days, and again it would say everybody will react differently depending on what your treatment is and all this kind of stuff. But for me it was like literally the first few days, and again it would say everybody will react differently depending on what your treatment is and all this kind of stuff. But for me it was within the first few days and I remember just like my head was just like there was almost like a void there of like, where all the thoughts of food had been before. And I remember then thinking am I, is this some kind of placebo? Am I not thinking of food because I'm intentionally not trying to think of food? Am I not hungry because I'm intentionally trying not to be hungry? Or what's going on here?
Speaker 1:And this wrecked my head for a few days, trying to figure out is this actually a reaction to something, or am I imagining this in my head? And then, as kind of week one, week two, because we didn't have a name for it, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. And then the first time I heard somebody talk about food noise, I was like what's?
Speaker 1:what's this food noise what? What this radio in the back of my head has a name it's food noise FM, like yeah, yeah, it just blew my mind Mad isn't it that not everybody has this the same way, though that not everybody has an internal dialogue.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I found that out as well pretty late in life. Everybody talks about everything in their head.
Speaker 1:Yes, and this is the most comparable thing I can think of is that there's some people that don't have that internal like narrative going on in their head or whatever, and for me me it's like wait a minute. You mean, there's people that don't have this narrative going on in their head the whole time, or this kind of thing. So that's that's kind of way I can think about it as well, but it just yeah when was the moment that you knew it was gone or that it wasn't there really?
Speaker 1:when I was driving in my car and I had a flapjack on the car seat beside me and one. I could only manage a small mouthful of it, but then, secondly, it wasn't constantly calling to me to eat it.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:If that makes sense. It was like yeah, the flapjack on the passenger seat, what about it? Yeah, as opposed to like yeah, the flapjack on the passenger seat, what about? It yeah, as opposed to oh, my god, there's a passenger seat, there's a flapjack, there beside you.
Speaker 2:There's a flapjack get it, get it, get it, get it. What's it going to taste?
Speaker 2:like you better eat it yeah yeah horse it into you, yeah you know and you, I sat with that for a little while this morning. I went on the Greenway for a walk and then we went into the coach house down in Kilmac Thomas for coffee and I had put one of the mini protein bars in my jacket, because I didn't really want to eat much this morning, and I forgot it was there. I got back into the car and thought, oh, that's just. How did I live my life for 30 odd years?
Speaker 1:yeah, yeah and come to this stage you know, even even an hour ago, I was down having a cup of coffee before I come up here to do the podcast and I have a box of.
Speaker 2:They're like um, turkish delight thins as in like they're kind of like after eight, after eights.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they're like an after eight, except they've Turkish Delight in them, and I love Turkish Delight, love Turkish Delight Even still, I love Turkish Delight.
Speaker 2:Very unusual for people to like that. I think, oh my God, I love it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, my cousin Debbie loves it, but like the difference is now two or three or four, whatever those little tins, and close the lid and put it back and put it in the cupboard.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I feel but people don't understand how you can't, how we couldn't do that. I know normies. Don't understand that I would have.
Speaker 1:I would have wanted. I would have kept going because it was there and because my body's like no, you need the food, get the food you need. It's there, it's in front of you.
Speaker 2:Why aren't you finishing what's wrong with you, like it's just, it's such a foreign concept yeah, and it was a thing of keep going back to it, never actually taking the box and sitting down with the box, because then you would be seen to be eating a box. It would be putting it back in the cupboard two minutes later, opening the cupboard, taking two or three more stuffing in your face, leaving never taking out the box. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and eating in secrecy and stuff like that as well but anyway, food noise.
Speaker 1:It is a fascinating topic. It is something that, as I say, what's it comparable to?
Speaker 2:do you think in life other people that would suffer from that kind of noise?
Speaker 1:I think. Imagine something bad has happened and you keep going over it in your head.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And you're constantly mulling over something in your head. Imagine that 24-7, except about food.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Or if you're someone that you know always thinks worst case scenario or something or something like that. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Also somebody that gambles or that's addicted to drugs yeah or that drinks alcohol.
Speaker 1:There is a bit in the in the podcast with oprah where they specifically talk about addictions and the kind of effect of treatment on people that have food, noise and stuff like that and some of the similarities and also some of the differences. So again, um, highly recommend that oprah podcast topic. Yeah, it's really, really interesting.
Speaker 1:I say it's with an endocrinologist as well, so and yeah, and she's good, she's great yeah, she's like deeply, heavily invested in obesity and obesity care and that um and understanding um the treatments and stuff like that. So definitely it's. It's something that I I would encourage you to go and check out if you haven't um anyone that's listening.
Speaker 2:So when I would have, when I was um, in o, o, a, which is Overeaters Anonymous, similar to AA, and all the other ones as well, ga, gamblers Anonymous and NA Narcotics Anonymous. So we would have read from the same big book we had the whole. The concept was exactly the same thing.
Speaker 2:The concept was exactly the same thing, um, we were encouraged to probably stay away from our trigger foods, and I had them and I and I know I like I found out very quickly what they were yeah, um, but it was trying to stay away from them, mindfully, and thinking about the damage that they can do to you and thinking about, um, the future and how good a future you would have if you didn't have those trigger foods in your life. And you know, I lost weight. I went there and I lost weight and I traveled miles to these um groups and I had a sponsor, the same as you would in aa, um, I had all the literature, um, and it was good. It was good. Just in the end I just found it wasn't for me. It got a bit deep, yeah, um, and stuff like that. But I enjoyed it, I definitely enjoyed it. But they, they think along the same lines as well. You know, yeah, yeah it's.
Speaker 1:I think this thing like. I did a a video the other day because I got.
Speaker 1:I got a message on TikTok from a man called Thomas and I thought it was a really interesting one, so I did a video oh yeah, it was somewhat unpopular a few months ago about should and hear me out now before should everybody who is overweight automatically have a given right to get a medication like to help them lose that weight? And my initial thought was well, actually, before we jump straight to a medication, show me where there has been an attempt for lifestyle changes and nutritional changes beforehand. So, and that, for me, is the difference, and what I mean by that is that can be the difference between somebody that has put a stone on on holidays versus somebody that has relapsed time and time again, and that's that's the differentiating thing that I'm getting at there absolutely relapse part yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1:You know, if somebody has lived with obesity and constantly had challenges with their weight, you want them to have whatever support it is that is needed for them to help them improve their life. But this is what I was saying. I I wouldn't necessarily do a blanket yes. If somebody has excess weight, they should automatically be given a medication, because that might not be the right thing for somebody if it hasn't been a chronic disease for them, you know. In the same way, you're not going to give somebody who isn't diabetic insulin just because their sugar levels are out, because they've just eaten a whole box of chocolate.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly, and that's the kind of thing I was trying to say. But anyway, the message from Tommy. I said Thomas, tommy was lost 9 stone 2020, regained 9 plus 1, so 10 up in 2025. Unsure about the job, so they don't actually crave food. I go until 7 or 8, until I feel sick, and then binge on the wrong stuff. And this is where my reply was well, actually, do you know what? You maybe your first port of call there is, let's see about a cancer therapist that specializes in disordered eating and maybe with binge eating, and that could be the right treatment for somebody?
Speaker 2:you know that if that's the problem, like there's something oh yeah, it doesn't necessarily have to go straight to medication. No, no.
Speaker 1:But like, and that's that's the problem. Like there's something, oh yeah, it doesn't necessarily have to go straight to medication, no, no, but like and that's that's I'm saying. Like, not everybody might have, might have food noise or the disease of obesity, exactly, exactly just because they have some extra weight on them yeah, and this, where it is, can help it is so complex so complex the kind of the reasoning behind our bodies, our weight, how we think about it, how we think of ourselves, which is a constant work in progress.
Speaker 1:Um, but again, that's why you engage with a qualified professional, that's why you talk to a doctor, or you know if, if your doctor maybe doesn't seem as informed as some other ones, go to another doctor or go to someone that specializes in this, that they can maybe offer you some additional support. You know stuff like that. Um, yeah, that's my, that's my thought, that's all you have to say about that patty. I think you've said enough actually all right, like we are 30 minutes in, so fair enough oh yeah, um so what else?
Speaker 2:what else had we on the list? I lost the list. I had all the things that we were going to talk about I had it all written down and the dog ate.
Speaker 1:The dog ate it the dog ate your homework, is it? Yeah, yeah, like that's not like you, but into to rock up and be like I know you're like right, so what's happening? Yeah, you're like right, we diva. You're like the j-lo of podcastinda to rock up and be like I know. So what's happening? Yeah, you're like a right wee diva. You're like the J-Lo of podcasting. You just rock up and are like what am I doing?
Speaker 2:Expecting everyone else to do the work. Yeah, exactly, exactly. Oh, I'm aware, paddy, I'm aware, that's why I call you my boss.
Speaker 1:So the other thing, this is like literally hot off the press, like so hot off the press that I have not even got to fully assess this yet myself. Ok, so you've not had time to process it Paddy I haven't, yeah, but so earlier. So back in September, end of of September, I went for a DEXA scan. So a DEXA scan is one of the most accurate ways to get an idea of your body composition. Ie.
Speaker 2:I'm sure we're going to talk about something completely different this is why we need a running order now.
Speaker 1:I'm fascinated what you thought I was going to talk about no, no no, you are being bold edit.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry um, yeah but uh, no.
Speaker 1:So I had my dexa scan and got the results of my uh dexa scan today again. So it's four months between the uh, the two scans. Obviously in that four months I have been doing my strength training so I was curious to see what is the difference going to be, if any.
Speaker 2:In like what's the difference in your weight loss then in those four months so the difference in the four months is Hang on there.
Speaker 1:Now I can tell you I've been trying to do some quick analysis on this.
Speaker 2:You're taking a fucking spreadsheet again, aren't you?
Speaker 1:Total weight loss is 16.4 kilograms.
Speaker 2:Since four months ago.
Speaker 1:Exactly four months four months?
Speaker 2:oh right, okay. So nobody knows what that means. What's that meaning?
Speaker 1:the doctors do. Because remember, last week we were saying they work in so that is equals to, uh, two stone six pounds, roughly right, two stone five, something like that. Um is what that kind of equates to. Or if you are in old money and you want to go pounds, you're talking about £36. So yeah, so about £36 difference?
Speaker 2:in what?
Speaker 1:yeah, it is, yeah, substantial now. I had no idea like yeah, I had no idea like how long to wait or how soon it would be too soon or stuff like that so soon it'll be too soon or stuff like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so, um, what I did was when I got my dexascan, and basically I've asked uh chachi pati to help me.
Speaker 1:I've loaded in the first pdf and now the pdf from today, and I've also asked it to reference the surmount uh uh one trial. So that is one of the big trials. So the surmount one trial is one of the main kind of clinical trials about GLP-1 medications and the impact of them and and stuff like this. So, okay, what it basically has told me is, um, my total weight loss during these four months is comparable, but slightly faster than the average pace of the trial. So and that doesn't surprise me, because I know my initial months were definitely faster, if you get me um and this is where it would have been really interesting if I had got this done um, if I had got this done at the start of the my, my kind of weight loss journey, but anyway, in relation to my fat mass reductions. So, specifically, fat mass, it's saying, on par with the trial showing that most of your weight loss is coming from fat excellent what it's in.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this is what you wanted to hear, though, isn't it?
Speaker 1:yeah, I mean I like I was kind of hoping, if I'm honest, I was kind of hoping that my fat sorry, my lean mass would have been better than the trials. So what I mean by that is they were saying that the trials showed up to about maybe well. Again, this where you look, but particularly in relation to sermon one, it says that the um about 25 percent of weight loss was coming from muscle, or sorry, not muscle, lean, lean mass. So so that could be your muscle, your bones that was water trial.
Speaker 1:Now, yes, yeah, yeah yeah, so within the trials of glp1 medications, um, they're saying that out of the weight people lost, um, that about up to 25 percent of that in and around was going to be lean mass that was lost.
Speaker 1:Okay, my results are exactly in line with that okay, I'm, and you wanted to I was hoping that it was going to be better than that okay because I am doing my strength training um I try and prioritize my protein coming in, so I was hoping that my lean mass loss in those four months would have been lesser than like the 25 because you were gaining lean muscle yes, that was the plan, that was the, that was the the hope that's what you were working towards yeah, um, so, yeah, so, like to be honest, it's it.
Speaker 1:It kind of tells me that, yeah, my body is definitely getting healthier, um, it's telling me parts of my body where you know I've lost um more weight or where I've built more muscle and you know stuff like that, um, but overall, what it's kind of telling me is that my results are kind of in, in, in line with what the clinical trial saw, and I'm, I'm, I'm a little bit defiant. I'm a little bit disappointed with that because I have been doing my strength training yeah you know um, but look was the trial?
Speaker 2:was the trial with people that weren't doing strength training or something?
Speaker 1:oh god, the I don't I off the top of my head. I need to look at again. I can't remember exactly what, um, what, what exact training they were doing, um, but yeah, so we'll see. But I think look at again, as we've spoken before, this is a data point for me.
Speaker 2:It's where I go and look at it's just information, isn't it?
Speaker 1:yeah, it's information exactly yeah, it's information and the thing is the same with the weight, the scales as well like yeah, and like, I'm very aware that the type of training I've been doing is traditional strength training, so it is there that the type of training I've been doing is traditional strength training, so it is. There is another type of training, which is called hypertrophy training, and that is focused specifically on trying to build muscle, essentially, All right.
Speaker 1:Okay. So what this is indicating to me is okay, do you know what I'm going to work with my coach now and be like let's maybe mix this up a little bit, maybe mix this up a little bit and let's incorporate more of that hypertrophy, more that specifically, muscle building, um type of training, in in in what I'm doing are you going to invest in another dexascan, maybe in six months time? Oh god, yeah, yeah, yeah, 100, yeah, 100, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah um again.
Speaker 1:Your one regret was not not getting it to start, yeah, yeah yeah, I have a lot of regrets from when I started.
Speaker 2:A lot yeah like not taking all the pictures, you know it.
Speaker 1:That's and all the measurements. Yeah, it's one of things. Thank god you did. Yeah, I did, so I've got one. Yeah, I've got one.
Speaker 2:But there it. There's a huge, vast difference, and I'm in my underwear taking it and it's going to take a lot for me to ever publish them yeah, yeah, fair, and that's fair.
Speaker 1:And look, nothing says you ever do have to yeah, exactly, yeah it's like as much as we do stuff.
Speaker 2:Obviously I will. Yeah, totally, if they fly. Yeah, I'm thinking calendar girls, calendar girls did you, god, paddy? Calendar girls did you ever see it? Yes, did you ever see? Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, how great.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, calendar we'll do a Monjaro calendar yeah, but I think that, yeah, I think I think basically, it's just now up to me to be like okay, what do I want to? What do I want to, as I go into this next phase, like there's so many things in my head now in terms of right, what do I want to tweak and lock in even more? So things like let's look at my nutrition again, let's look at my training um, is there other data points there and that I can kind of focus on as well? But then also even things like how is my sleep? Is it? I know my sleep is drastically better than it- was, and especially since I give up alcohol.
Speaker 2:Oh my god yeah, it's amazing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay, that's interesting. Yeah, that's good, yeah, super super good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I definitely think Sorry, starting mouth taping tomorrow. I'll let you know how that goes. Like during the day.
Speaker 1:During the day, so that people don't have to listen to you.
Speaker 2:Fuck you, paddy, fuck you.
Speaker 1:I'll donate to charity for that. Sean Don, on you. I'd like to sponsor Silence when we were younger. Do you remember the sponsor of Silence? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I never managed it, and then you'd go into your room by yourself and talk to yourself so you could break it.
Speaker 2:God, I never shut up, I still don't shut up. Yeah, anyway, sorry, what were you saying? No, no, no, shut up, yeah, but anyway, sorry, what were you?
Speaker 1:saying no, no, but I think that's gonna be fascinating. I could never do that. I'd find that too restrictive oh, you couldn't anyway with your wonky septum. Yeah, I couldn't, I couldn't.
Speaker 2:That sounds like a harry potter spell the wonky septum what we will say, though, is definitely, definitely think about listening to last week's podcast. It's on Paddy having his last job of Munjaro before his operation and also going forward. On Paddy's Instagram. He will be updating everybody on how he's getting along, and I think next week we will have a podcast out. Next week, paddy.
Speaker 1:We will have a podcast next week.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but maybe not the week after patty's taking some paid holiday.
Speaker 1:The podcast, the dose but you know how to. You know how to set up the podcast and do it all now, could you?
Speaker 2:know. I'm using the same link you sent me two months ago. Patty, could you, could you river? I type in riverside and then click on a link and I'm there. That's all I know. Yes, absolutely.
Speaker 1:Riverside is one of the platforms we use folks for recording the podcast but one thing. What we were saying there, though, is when, if you're starting out on a journey, or if you're on one, and you haven't done already, those kind of data points off. Your photos are off your, even if just for your eyes, um. Or your spreadsheets. Like me, I love my spreadsheets. I love my spreadsheets, I love them, um, but, like, I've got all my measurements in there, I've got all my weights in there, everything, um since day one, but it's and I'm so glad I did.
Speaker 1:I said the only thing is I wish I got the decks out now, obviously. Um, a deck is quite difficult to get privately in Ireland. I only find one or two places that can. That will do it, but usually you would get referred to a DEXA for like checking bone health or like a osteoporosis or stuff like that from a doctor.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's usually older people, but there are there are some places around the country that you can do it privately if you pay for it. But, and again, you don't need to. It's just that I'm an nerd and I just love, love to know the numbers.
Speaker 2:You just love information.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I just love information to help keep me informed with stuff but I think as well, sorry, go on what I was going to say to you, belinda, though, like with the, you're still, belinda, a private individual that doesn't shouldn't feel under pressure to have to put things out there for other people. You're allowed your own journey as well for you, do you know?
Speaker 2:Yeah, true, true, yeah, yeah, I don't think I'll ever publish them.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:It's just for me to see how far I've come you know exactly but I will say that um and I talk about this quite a bit as well is, even if you don't get to measure your whole body or you can't be bothered with the photographs, measure your belly around, where your belly button is, all the way around, because the visceral fat around your belly and around your actual organs is a massive, massive health marker, because the more visceral fat you lose, the healthier your organs are becoming, and it's super important it's um, it is particularly that, yeah, it really is, and in the sense of um health, you know not just
Speaker 1:weight or weight loss or looking better, but in the sense of your health like I don't know how clear this is going to come through on the camera for you, but basically, um, after the dexa scan you get an image that shows you where your kind of body mass is and bits and pieces.
Speaker 2:You go side by sides from the first and second one I don't know how clear it's going through, oh yeah okay, wow, yeah, that's a lot, paddy apologies if you are somebody that is listening to this.
Speaker 1:You're like what are they looking at? Wow, look at your arms. Yeah, essentially like it's it's color coded yeah yeah, it's colour coded and it kind of shows you bone, lean, fat now you're really regretting not having this done from the start. Yeah, yeah, that's a good visual it is, but like are you going to put?
Speaker 2:that up on Instagram?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'll put it in a reel, so I will and put it together. But like particularly like that kind of mid section, like my trunk kind of area. I can notice big changes up around my chest. I can notice it. I think even the fact, if you look at, like my bones that are coming through, like you can see the bones, More of your bones because they're not covered in fat.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like it's just, that's mad it is fascinating to see um keep going, keep going yeah, so it's, it's.
Speaker 1:It's an interesting one to to kind of see, um.
Speaker 2:But the other thing is have you thought have you thought any more about your goal weight or your goal size, or no? No, no, no I haven't.
Speaker 1:Um, no, I haven't. But the other thing is I have, like when I lost weight before the one time when I lost, I considered my weight and in my lower chest, there you have your xiphoid bone is, I think you call it xiphoid, xiphoid bone, which is kind of like in the middle of your chest, at the very bottom between your where your ribs? Yeah, kind of in the middle there yeah, and I remember feeling this on my chest. I'm like, oh my god, what's wrong with me? What is that? What is this?
Speaker 1:lost so much fat you didn't know what I didn't know what this thing was and I had to find out. Oh, it's just a bone like seriously, seriously, I'm sure it's just a bone Like seriously, seriously. I'm sure it's called xiphoid or else I've totally just no, no, no.
Speaker 2:I think everyone knows what you're talking about. Like Paddy, I can't.
Speaker 1:I can't hardly go on my hips when I'm in Pilates now because I haven't got as much fat on my hips anymore yeah, the xiphyde process that's what it's called is the lowest part of your sternum, the distant end it's the pointed bottom of the sternum that's in the center of your chest, where your rib cage connects to your sternum, right above your uh diaphragm. Now, beneath this is, should you be able to feel it, it's not unusual to feel a lump in the xiphyde process. If a person can feel a lump, um, it usually insert has become inflamed. Well, it's not. It's not it's bone like that I'm feeling.
Speaker 1:Forget me but, it is just fascinating that again there, like maybe, I don't know, maybe two months ago I was, like I can feel it again.
Speaker 2:I can feel it.
Speaker 1:But even being able to feel, even to be able to feel the bottom of my ribs yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah I could feel my hip bones there a couple of months ago.
Speaker 2:I was delighted as well.
Speaker 1:yeah, it's mad.
Speaker 2:And by the time we record next Monday for next week's podcast, I'll have my your head body. No, yeah, I'm getting it done this Friday, paddy, I'm shitting myself, okay.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what, okay, yeah, what. So what are you expecting? I I have no idea. I haven't weighed myself since, okay, six weeks ago, since I weighed myself at the gym and my six weeks trial, I think, is over. Obviously I'm keeping going, but um I have to get the results of that. I don't know like if I didn't lose any weight, that's fine too. You know, I stalled for six months at one point.
Speaker 1:So do you do so real? Talk do you feel you have put in the honest effort that you would be hoping to see results?
Speaker 2:yes okay, okay and if I didn't, I would say you know, I know you would, I was yeah, I would have said no fucking hell.
Speaker 1:I winged two-thirds of it yeah, yeah, yeah, I didn't yeah, yeah, that's good, I think I missed one gym session how have you found the training sessions, because obviously they're different to what you were doing before I just love them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I just love him. I love it like I love it. I put it on my stories today saying you know, I can't believe how much I love it, yeah, yeah yeah, so like what?
Speaker 1:what was your work? What was your workout today or yesterday?
Speaker 2:um, I did. What should I do?
Speaker 1:I don't know any of the names of them that's okay, just describe them, because that's more entertaining for me screw you, paddy.
Speaker 2:I'm not here for entertainment. It's certainly not yours, oh god. No, I did a lot. I do, I do as of. Two weeks ago, I started tracking my weight yeah of what I'm lifting and stuff.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, yes. I did do the dumbbell, not the barbell yeah, yeah, the big long one is the bar. Yeah, that's the barbell.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's the barbell that's 20 kg it is, oh, it is, yeah I did, yeah, and I did it last week, and you had to touch your bottom off of the ball when you're doing your squats and shut up and it hurt my back a little bit is this some dodgy nightclub?
Speaker 1:no, no, no, no no so you had a ball behind you and you had the barbell on you and you just sit down and stand back up again.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, um, so that hurt my back okay so we moved down. That was 20 kg, we moved down to a 10 kg, and I stayed at 10 kg today as well.
Speaker 1:Um so and have you ever had any like back injury before?
Speaker 2:I've had one operation on my back and I'm going for another one okay, soon, so yeah, so that's why I like this gym? Because of the pt aspect of it yeah, yeah and he knows everything and he's constantly watching me and every single day when I go in there three or four times a week, he's constantly watching me and every single day, when I go in there three or four times a week, he's saying how's your back today? Yeah, you know because I think he's concerned how my previous training session. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Sorry.
Speaker 2:I'm so far away from the mic Previous thing he would have went. But yeah, it's all good, like it's grand. You know, I never thought I'd be in there. I never thought I'd be doing it after, especially after coming up the back of three years on crutches and morphine, and just in a hole yeah like, my mental health was just chronic yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:And and like it's so common for people that have excess weight to back pain is like one of the most common for for various reasons, you know, depending on where you carry your weight, the pressure, like the pressure on your poor back. Yeah, you know yeah em, so you're starting your mouth taping tomorrow, tonight, tomorrow yeah, my Pilates Pilates instructor is giving.
Speaker 2:Oh my god, I still have to do a podcast with her, don't I? She's laughing at me. Still, my Pilates instructor is giving me some to try out before I invest in them. She's giving me the really good ones.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay, yeah.
Speaker 2:This one has got a little tiny hole in the middle of it, like I'm such a fucking mouth breather I wake up in the middle of the night, my mouth is dry, so yeah.
Speaker 1:And I have, yeah, and I have a sleep mask now and I love tape. Why I don't even? I want you to wear both of those in the gym when you're doing you're like squatting down to the ball it's gonna look like some fucking medieval show.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and the rest shut up oh god, where's jamie Dornan?
Speaker 1:yeah 50 shades of workout, yeah, oh god.
Speaker 2:Anyway, paddy, I have to be on my way now because I have a lovely roast beef dinner waiting for me. It's actually on the table and the knife and fork and a glass of lemon whatever he's after doing for me and loads of horse radish sauce.
Speaker 1:I don't like horse. No, I don't like horse, no I don't like, I can't even pronounce it. I don't like that, no.
Speaker 2:I love it it's too peppery.
Speaker 1:It's too peppery. Yes, is it roast potatoes?
Speaker 2:yeah, his roast potatoes. He makes them from scratch, like I know, I know.
Speaker 1:I'd love some roast potatoes now. I'd fucking love roast potatoes. Well, we've been into Luck, luck. It has been a pleasure, oh it's been see you in the next cartoon mate. I spend. I'm going to spend the next like four days editing this to make it.
Speaker 1:I know I'm sus sorry, that's alright, that's okay, and next week we will have further chats and bants and we can talk about maybe check in on how. My first, because obviously I took my last bit of my treatment last week, which you do me for a week, so really it's going to be towards the end of this week when I start so when we record on Monday, you'll know yeah so I was wrong actually because I said initially that I'd know probably all the day off the treatment or the day of the surgery.
Speaker 1:That's wrong.
Speaker 2:The surgery's next week, I don't know where I'm thinking, you'll know when, before that yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1:I'll know then to this week how I'm kind of feeling so and into Monday.
Speaker 2:Then we can have a chat about it. Yeah, and you'll be four days, oh, oh yeah. Are we off on the bank holiday? It's a bank holiday, me and you the dose.
Speaker 1:No, me and you no, no, no, we don't get bank holidays off?
Speaker 2:No, we don't get bank holidays off. They won't pay us sure.
Speaker 1:I need to get on with the WRC with that. Yeah, yeah. Oh well, belinda, you go and enjoy your roast dinner. It's been a pleasure and enlightening, as as always, and thank you for yeah well, that is definitely one word. You've brought many emotions to me over the past hour. Oh god, I need to get some music going for the end oh god, yeah, play us out, paddy, play us out. It's like roll it there, roisin roll it there, colette.
Speaker 2:Wasn't that the other one?
Speaker 1:yeah, wasn't it Roisin beforehand? I it there, colette, wasn't that the other one?
Speaker 2:Yeah, it wasn't Roisin beforehand. I think.
Speaker 1:I think so, yeah, back in the day. Okay, from myself, paddy, and from you and. Belinda, belinda, adios amigos.
