The Dose with Paddy and Belinda
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Weâll provide inspiration, motivation and information to help you on your way to a happier and healthier life with a few laughs along the way. Weâll chat about our own journey which is currently supported by the GLP1 Obesity medication, Mounjaro - sharing highs and lows, answering your questions along with some expert guests.
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The Dose with Paddy and Belinda
Paddy is stopping Mounjaro ð± and maintenance chats.
Paddy prepares to stop taking Mounjaro, acknowledging the anxiety and unknowns associated with this significant change
Belinda interviews Paddy about this new territory in an extremely honest and raw episode.
We delve into his recent journey, discussing surgery implications, and reflects on maintenance beyond weight, fostering a deeper understanding of physical and mental health including an incredibly sentimental non scale goal for Paddy.
Combined Paddy & Belindas weight loss totals over 170lbs supported by GLP1 Medications Ozempic & Mounjaro.
None of the content in this episode is to be treated as medical advice. Always seek out personal support from your GP / Medical Care team before beginning or changing any aspect of your healthcare.
We are not medically qualified - simply sharing our insights based on our journeys so far. Paddy is a Qualified Personal Trainer & Nutritional Coach.
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I can't remember our theme tune and I don't have it ready this week do you know what? I cut it. So listeners I am, I'm in studio two we shall call it, and I have a different set up in this studio from where I normally record and I don't have the record and I don't have the intro tune. I don't have my intro tune here.
Speaker 2:And it's so catchy, I love it. I know don't it's okay, because you.
Speaker 1:I'm going into last week's podcast, this last week's one. What are we saying now? What's this there? None of it Ever. Always we've seen it. What's it there? None of it ever, always. There we go, and you're very welcome along to another episode of the Dose with Paddy and Belinda, where both Paddy and Belinda it's been one of those weeks. I think, it's fair to say.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's been a tough old week.
Speaker 1:It feels like this has been a week of Mondays, lessons, yeah of a lot of stuff.
Speaker 2:We will say as well, though, that this recording on a Thursday night is never going to happen ever again.
Speaker 1:No, no, it's going to be.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's going to have to be early in the week when we're not so tired.
Speaker 1:So we normally record the podcast at the start of the week. It gives me a bit of time to kind of get it edited, get it up that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2:Uh, this week has just been one of those weeks one of those weeks for us for multiple, multiple, multiple reasons, but um we're here, we're here, we're actually, and you know what, when, when we, when we are here, it's fine, everything falls away, and yeah, we just love the chat, so it's all good but if our energy is not the same as previous weeks forgive us it's.
Speaker 1:It's a. It's a. It's a thursday. Belinda, you know, has a very busy household. I have, you know, a husband and a cat and jobs and a cat of the cat you know.
Speaker 2:So it's tough going, the most demanding cat in Ireland apparently, oh my gosh.
Speaker 1:Oh my god, like she's such a thicker.
Speaker 2:Couldn't tell you where she got it out of.
Speaker 1:She's a total drama, queen.
Speaker 2:I don't know whether you say this where you are, Paddy, but we say she didn't lick it off a stone.
Speaker 1:I have not heard that before.
Speaker 2:Yeah that's what we say down here.
Speaker 1:I've heard that the apple did not fall far from the tree.
Speaker 2:That's exactly what it means. Yeah, it's funny, it's a weird one actually.
Speaker 1:I just thought of another way I could have got the music.
Speaker 2:Oh well, it's done now. Stop to come back, look forward.
Speaker 1:That was a special edition intro this week.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we'll see.
Speaker 1:Who knows, maybe after this, maybe I did get the intro in, I don't know. I don't know what future Paddy's going to be able to do in the edit.
Speaker 2:That's future Paddy's problem.
Speaker 1:Yeah, as in like in an hour's time. Yeah, Listen.
Speaker 2:Paddy, we have big news, as our friend Alan Clark would say Big news coming soon.
Speaker 1:Big news coming soon. Big news coming soon. Alan's my friend, isn't he? He's not your friend.
Speaker 2:He's my friend via you. All right, he's my favourite person in social media Is he. Oh my God, he's phenomenal. Did he come out when?
Speaker 1:Alan has never come out, much to my trying. Anyway, that could beat her. Oh god, oh god, yeah did he?
Speaker 2:did he start up the social media thing in lockdown or no, he didn't, did he.
Speaker 1:Alan's been involved in like been around a lot of stuff for a long time. That sounds shady. Maybe some of it is, I don't know. Alan, a lot of stuff for a long time.
Speaker 2:That sounds shady. Maybe some of it is.
Speaker 1:I don't know, alan. I know it's not, but no.
Speaker 2:I know Alan couldn't get his gin. When his gin came out, couldn't get it yeah.
Speaker 1:I'd say I know Alan from like early 2000s, early 2000s, yeah, yeah, yeah. So there was radio and that yeah yeah, so he used to DJ at some of the nights that I used to go to back in the day, and then we had some friends in common.
Speaker 2:That's right, he was a DJ.
Speaker 1:We just became friends and then, yeah, then there was radio, then there was social media If nobody knows who he is and you're from Ireland.
Speaker 2:you're living under a rock.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but for anybody else Alan Clark.
Speaker 2:Is that his handle on Instagram?
Speaker 1:Is it just Alan Clark? Is that his handle on Instagram? Is it just Alan Clark? Is it Alan Clark official? I think Maybe. Is it yeah?
Speaker 2:And his tagline is usually big news coming soon. He used to piss out of all the influencers, didn't he? Yeah?
Speaker 1:Alan Clark official. What I will say is that Alan is one-off, if not the hardest working person I know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he runs himself into the ground. I'd say nearly.
Speaker 1:He always has had that really strong work ethic as well. So he is yeah, he's very, very, very, very. Do you know what?
Speaker 2:drew me to him Was his dog Cookie.
Speaker 1:Oh Cookie, yeah, yeah, his springer, yeah, yeah, lovely, he's an old cookie tin. But what big news can we add about?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was big news have we got about? Yeah, I was big news about you and where you are on your journey and what's happening, and yeah, I took my final dose of Munjarro last night that's.
Speaker 1:That's a hard pill to swallow that is not something that people are going to have been expecting me to say I know that, and even when I briefly mentioned this on Instagram the other day, the amount of DMs that I got, questions, what and I didn't answer any of them other than it'll be in the podcast this week and I'll explain all.
Speaker 1:But yeah, so yesterday I took my last dose of a 15 milligram and this has been something that has been on the horizon for a. I guess I first became aware of having to do this and I'm gonna say, maybe November time, was it? Maybe?
Speaker 1:I think I first started October, november, october late October yeah, late October, november time time when it was first said to me. And I am a little bit freaked out, I am a bit worried, I am almost feeling like I'm going into the wilderness a bit. I feel like I am. I feel like the stabilizers are being taken off my bike.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that is probably the best way to think about. Yeah, okay, so so just let me ask you a question first. Then you've had all of this time, haven't you to think about it? Have, are there things that you've done to prepare for this?
Speaker 1:I have thought about things. There is not things I have done, so I guess there's some context as well that I haven't shared yet. So, we'll talk about that now. So the reason why I'm coming off Manjaro is I have surgery in two weeks time and I have a deviated septum that I've had only really started bothering me. I would say maybe, maybe six years ago, six, seven years ago, maybe, something like that.
Speaker 2:Does it impair your breathing? Yes. Impact your breathing?
Speaker 1:Yes it does and I can notice it when I'm in the gym. I can notice it oddly, I can notice it when I'm flying and I like I've spoke to the consultant about that and I've spoken to my own doctor about it and we're not fully sure why. But then we also think, could that be a psychological thing? That, because I know there's something up my nose, am I almost getting myself into like an anxiety attack Because I nearly had one of those, or I did have one of those.
Speaker 1:I can now reflect on is what it probably was when I was flying back from um Orlando last last year um for our first wedding anniversary and I got this into my head that I couldn't breathe when we were about two and a half hours still away from Dublin and I was like, started to hyperventilate on the plane and I went to worst case scenario, as I always do. I don't know why I do this in some aspects of life, in some I do, but I went to worst case scenario where I was like, oh my god, I'm gonna need oxygen. Oh my god, I'm gonna need a medic. Oh my god, they're gonna have to divert the plane. Oh my god, I'm not gonna make it to land. I can't breathe.
Speaker 1:I can't breathe like, and this was reality like it was that time in the flight where everyone else was asleep peter, my partner was asleep, um and I was like I'm not going to survive two and a half hours.
Speaker 2:I I was not being able to breathe. I was literally like is that because you couldn't physically breathe through your nose at that point it's because I felt I wasn't getting enough oxygen through my nose.
Speaker 1:Now, the other thing to keep in mind is that when you're on a plane, the oxygen levels on a plane are lower than when you're at ground level, but it shouldn't be to the extent that it should impact you. Now there are some people that it does, and they will have oxygen machines that they bring on them and you have to get pre-authorization from the airport and all this or from the airline and that. So again, this is where my head was going. Oh my God, this is going to be my life now. Oh my God, like it's mad how our mind plays tricks on us, and we spoke about that in last week's episode that we did about body image, if you haven't heard it. Like you know, tricks are mine, are my employees, but anyway. So this set me on a journey to try and figure out. I need to figure out what happened then to cause that situation, because I like to fly, I like to go places and I'm not, you know, I I need to fix it.
Speaker 1:So I went to my own doctor and he did a. Um. Well, first of all, the first, first doctor I went to, he said uh, he looked at my nose. He's like yeah, you've deviated septum. I can tell you that right now. He's like, in terms of how bad it is, um, I don't know. Um, I like I can see it when I look. But I'm going to refer you to the consultant which I did really, really phenomenal consultant got referred to him. I've been in with him a couple of times and he's like yeah, pat, paddy, he's like I do think you'll benefit from surgery because of how deviated it is in your nose. He's like there's some people that might have a slight deviation. I'd be like do you know what? You'll be fine, just take the steroids.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you can take. There's a medication among called Rialtris and that's essentially like a steroid that just helps to expand the nose a little bit or the nostrils. So now, when I say expand, I mean like a millimetre you know, like tiny amount.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:But it helps. So they gave me that and when I was speaking to Gunther Fulton I was like so what do you think happened on the plane? And he said, well, you do have a deviant septum. He's like I don't think it should have caused you to not be able to breathe on the plane. And I was like so it's possible it could have been a psychological thing that I essentially caused, like myself, an anxiety attack or a panic attack, and I've never experienced that before. So I can't.
Speaker 2:You can't relate, I can't relate, yeah I, you can't relate.
Speaker 1:I can't relate. Yeah, I'm sorry I hit my mic. I can't relate to what that is. To know if it was or wasn't, but I was hyperventilating. I was standing up, I had the air vents above the seat pointed at my nose, thinking that it would get me more oxygen. Like this is what was going on To the extent where, like I was almost in tears, thinking I'm not going to survive the next two hours.
Speaker 2:And did the girls you know the stewardesses and stuff did they come in?
Speaker 1:No, nobody came near me. I didn't. No, no. I was trying to be as inconspicuous as possible, like a lot of people around me were asleep but I was massively like for ages on the flight and it really scared me, so anyway. So yeah, the consultant kind of agreed. He's like I'm glad that you recognised that maybe it was that kind of you know maybe anxiety attack or something like that.
Speaker 1:He's like I know myself that is not a nice thing when you get to that situation. So I think he could relate it to maybe experience stuff of himself. So that put my mind at ease a bit. But yes, we agreed that basically I I would have surgery for the deviated septum um. So I've been waiting a couple of months and I'm going to get that done in two weeks.
Speaker 2:But it's two weeks today, is it?
Speaker 1:it's two weeks today, yeah two weeks today I'll be getting that. So that is under general anesthetic. So then that opened up this whole thing, okay. Well, what's the crack with medication and general anaesthetic? Is there anything there? I thought you know there won't be, it'll be grand.
Speaker 2:So what was your first kind of port of call then, or who was your first point of port of call to speak to about that?
Speaker 1:Honestly Google.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Not lying, it was Google.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, google.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, Not lying, it was Google, yeah, yeah, yeah, google was to see. Did it give me any information on if there was anything between, like, glp-1 medications and a general anaesthetic? Just see, was there any kind of reaction that happens between that? And as I started looking into it then I was like, oh, there is a medical risk actually when you're on a general anesthetic, when you're on a GLP-1 and you're getting a general anesthetic. So essentially, what I think it's to do with is a form of aspiration which, from what I can gather, is that essentially your digestive system is slowed down, obviously when you're on the GLP-1 medication and when you go under the glp-1 medication and when you go under the general anesthetic. I think it's something like there could be a risk then of that delayed digestion suddenly just releasing um, which can cause problem.
Speaker 1:I think it now I could be wrong on that. I absolutely could be wrong. So then obviously I went and I contacted a few of the prescribers, asked them questions, was getting some mixed things, mixed answers from them. But then obviously I went to the consultant and the anaesthetist that is going to be working with me and they came back with yes, we want you off that medication two weeks before your surgery. We want you off that medication two weeks before your surgery. So for the next two weeks I will not be taking Mungero, but it's going to be longer than that, based on what I know at the moment. Because, again, the guidance is that the other side.
Speaker 2:Scary the thoughts of it. I know, I know, I know.
Speaker 1:Like the other side of the surgery, then the kind of guidance that I've received so far and maybe this will change, I don't know, but the guidance I've received so far is that there could be a number of weeks after the surgery where I might be off it. Um, because, again, if you think of the way it works, it slows down. You know your digestive system and when you're sick or in your healing you want your body to be able to absorb nutrients and the food and the goodness from your food as quickly and as effectively as possible.
Speaker 2:So is that what they're saying then? Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1:Now, as I say, look, that might change after the time, but right now I'm kind of preparing myself that basically I could be maybe a month-ish or so off the medication.
Speaker 2:Without it, without it, medication without it without it. So did you look up um how long after you finish a glp1 medication does it take to actually come leave your body completely?
Speaker 1:so I be, and again, this is based on the app that I use that shows the medication level oh yeah, yeah, shot C.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know how medically accurate this is, so just to call that out. But yes, so when I look at it, basically I can look from okay, if I took my dose last night and my surgery's in two weeks time, what level of medication would be in my body at that point? And what it is telling me is that on the 6th of february, the day that I am due to have my surgery, that my level is estimated to be about about six milligrams okay which is, which is higher than what I thought it was going to be, if I'm honest.
Speaker 2:So at the peak of your efficacy, of your week of the drug. What would be the highest level if two weeks time is going to be Ah?
Speaker 1:no, do you know what Scrap that? Scrap that Because you can edit that. Scrap that Because.
Speaker 2:You can edit that out, Paddy. It's your podcast, mate I don't believe it.
Speaker 1:We're tired. We already said this.
Speaker 2:We're very tired, do you?
Speaker 1:know what it is. For some reason yesterday's dose is recorded twice in the app, so it won't be six milligram. I was thinking that was too high. Three, then I would say it's going to be about. I'd say, maybe let's see the six. I'd say about four. Yeah, actually, that's exactly what it is. So on the day of my surgery it should be about four milligrams.
Speaker 2:Okay, still some then.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, but like obviously less than a third than kind of what's currently in my system. Okay, Again, that's. I don't know. I can't stand over how medically accurate that is.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah but.
Speaker 1:I am extremely worried, extremely because the content creators that I follow online, that share their journey, that have come off the medication after that kind of the majority of them, that kind of after that seven, eight day period is where a lot of them have started to see that food noise the hunger, all that coming back and that really worries me.
Speaker 2:So have you, because it's going to come back, you've.
Speaker 1:I mean and I know we'll talk about this later I think it'd be interesting to see what happens for myself, because, again, I don't have experience with this, it'll be an interesting.
Speaker 2:It's going to be great to have it documented, though. It's going to be great content for people that are out there that are facing the same thing you know, and.
Speaker 1:I think even in terms of thinking about maintenance like it'll give me a good idea and I know we're coming to talk about that a little bit in a wee while, but I think it'll be a good test for me to see. You know, I'll use the Shotzi app and just see what kind of to see what doses in my body when the hunger comes back or when the food noise comes back.
Speaker 2:If it does, maybe it doesn't, maybe it won't.
Speaker 1:You know, paddy, have you ever had your food noise return while you've been on the drug and you have been waiting to go up a dose? I had actually, a few weeks ago, my I was meant to take my dose at a particular time and I forgot and about, I'd say, maybe 12 hours after I forgot I was sitting there and I was like oh my god, I want food and.
Speaker 1:I was in standing in the kitchen and I was like, oh, my god, I want food. And I was in standing in the kitchen and I was like going for this like some similar habits to before, and I actually stood at the fridge and I was like, why am? I hungry why am I this hungry? Why do I want this?
Speaker 1:and I wouldn't say it was food noise, I'd say it was more your tummy, yeah, and I wouldn't even like actual physical hunger yeah, I don't know what's even true physical hunger, it was more so that kind of drive to go and eat, almost for the sake of eating, and I thought what has gone on? That's exactly what our habits were and, like I, went and I had something to eat, and then I stopped to see okay, is, am I feeling full after that?
Speaker 1:now, yeah and I was. I did not feel full after that at all. But then that's when I sat down, because I'm not just going to sit here and keep eating, because, again, part of this journey is you learn, you know to work on your behaviours and your habits and understanding things. So I had something to eat at that stage and I kind of sat there and was like why, why am I feeling like this? I've just eaten, I shouldn't be still feeling hungry. This isn't the way the last seven months have been. And then it hit me. I was like you were meant to take your medication like 12 hours ago and you didn't.
Speaker 2:I was like oh, my God.
Speaker 1:So does that worry you now. Yeah, massively.
Speaker 2:It has to Because I don't even want to ask you the question because I'm afraid of the answer, because I wouldn't have an answer for it. But have you or is there even a way that you can prepare yourself to come off of this drug when you don't actually want to Like you're not coming off it because you've chosen to do so?
Speaker 2:and you feel you have reached a point in your journey where you have killed it and you've got all your new skills down and your lifestyle changes and all the rest of it because, as we know, we've all made these lifestyle changes before, we've all killed it in the gym and killed it in everything we've done, but taking away that medication when you don't want to take it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like it scares the shit out of me. I mean, given that we're looking at potentially three, four, I don't even know how many weeks. This is the thing Because, like one person told me, oh, you can go back on the medication the following week, someone else told me oh, it'll be a few weeks Are these? Professionals yes, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, because I know you've spoken to a couple, haven't you a few? Like when?
Speaker 1:I say professionals. These are qualified medical professionals.
Speaker 2:I'm talking yes, I know, yeah, yeah, so, like I, because I asked you earlier what research have you done and you said well, I went to Google straight away, but you never followed on to say I also went to.
Speaker 1:I would say so in total, because I'm a nerd like this. I would say I asked four different medical professionals who would be in the know about GLP-1s that's the way I'll phrase it and then the anaesthetist.
Speaker 2:okay as well, tell us about what the anaesthetist okay as well, and tell us about what the anaesthetist said in particular so they've only told me about the before.
Speaker 1:We haven't had a chat about the after, so the before. They told me two weeks okay, the other people I asked said varying from one week, two weeks and three weeks right, so there was different answers from different medical professionals there, varying from one week, two weeks and three weeks. Right, so there was different answers from different medical professionals there.
Speaker 2:And then when you're going to listen to obviously is your own anaesthetist.
Speaker 1:Well, that's the thing. Yeah, I mean like I explained to them because, again, I thought they might know what Mungero is. So I said, look, it's very similar to like Saxenda or Zempik or stuff like that, just the way that it works in the body. Or I said, look, it's just a GLP-1 agonist. So they were like, yeah, it's fine, but anyway. So the other thing that I have mentioned is as well, is that the guidance that I've gotten and again, this might change after the surgery when we see how recovery is going. But and actually now I'm just thinking my doctor did say that I should allow a minimum of a two week recovery, so that probably is an indicator in terms of medication as well.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's why.
Speaker 1:I'll obviously have that conversation when I'm in there, but the other thing is, the initial guidance that I got was that there would be a considerable number of weeks where I can't do my strength training in the gym as well, of course, and their logic with that is you could bust, yeah, yeah, a vessel in your nose, literally or like put more pressure through your nose. You don't even realize you're flaring your nostrils and you're tensing yeah, well, yeah, because you do, yeah, yeah, yeah so so literally, it's the same as if you were to actually physically be sick as well.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, so I know I'm going to be on painkillers for a while afterwards. I have no idea really what to expect, though, but I am really worried. Not worried I'm really really on edge a bit more so because, like it is and I almost feel a bit emotional about this because yeah, I know, I feel emotional for you like I have.
Speaker 1:I really do dedicated with this because I know I feel emotional for you, like I have dedicated so much over the last seven months to trying to improve my health and I know I'm, in a way, healthier place, and I just don't just mean weight wise, I mean in terms of doing my strength training, doing my cardio training. Even this month I'm seeing improvements in me doing my 5k and I just feel that and I know it's for the betterment of my health this as well, like with with my breathing which, as I say, does impact me in the gym. That is one point where I definitely know my nose does impact me is in the gym, because when you're doing deep breaths and it's difficult to get the oxygen in um and actually the my own doctor gave me an inhaler.
Speaker 1:I'm not asthmatic, but he gave me an inhaler to try and help um open up more oxygen to get into my body and yeah, to help with that and for either, when I'm on the flight, in case that was a thing that happened again or it said try it in the gym. So I know I don't use them the whole time. I absolutely do not need it. I'm not depending on them or anything like that. It's not a daily thing, but um. But it just means that for we're looking in and around the ballpark for a month. Give or take.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Literally life how I know it is not going to be how I know it.
Speaker 2:I know, I know, like in terms of everything I've been, doing. I know, and you know as well, paddy. The thing is that, like since myself and yourself started this GLP-1 journey, we came from a place of a lot of food, anxiety and a lot of food noise. So have you psychologically had like, have you any plans going? Forward psychologically how you're going to deal with this when it happens and when you don't have the medication in your system yeah so my approach and I hate asking you because I, I just I'm so nervous for you yeah, yeah
Speaker 1:it's, it's nerve-wracking yeah, like plan a right is to try and see how does that idea that I've been working so hard on during this journey of intuitive eating, how does that serve me? That is not necessarily going to dull the food noise, but it should satisfy the physical hunger needs that I know my body now needs.
Speaker 1:And I think I'm going to use it as an opportunity to really sit with that when I feel hungry. Am I really physically hungry or is this that almost like? I don't say fake hunger because it feels real at the time? Um, like, like if, if I have, say, I had a breakfast that is substantial, there's no way that I could need food an hour later, do you know, even if the signals from my body are. So I'm going to try and lean into that intuitive eating. See how does that work.
Speaker 2:Is that something you've tried previous to GLP ones?
Speaker 1:I have. I have.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I think I did as well, I bought a book and read the book and yeah, got the T-shirt. The whole works. Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1:But then again it's like it was intuitive eating, but it was intuitive eating, still with food noise. So it's not.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's not. Yeah, it's not a comparable thing.
Speaker 1:It's not, it's a level playing field, like other people that don't have this condition, um. So so that's that. That's the initial thing that I'm going to try and lean in on um and then plan b, and I don't really want to do this, but I'm fully prepared that if I need to do this for a month or whatever much time, that I will is back to tracking my food, my calories, all that that stuff to make sure that I'm not being excessive. I have done that before and this is how I've lost weight before I've tracked calories. I'm extremely comfortable with that.
Speaker 2:I know how much I should need and it's not triggering for you, is it?
Speaker 1:It's not triggering for me? No, it's not, it's more so. It was something that I thought I'd never have to do again. Really, yeah, not it's more so.
Speaker 2:It was something that I thought I'd never have to do again really yeah, and you got out of the habit of doing it and not needing to do it and listening to your body yes, and now that I suppose that when you mentioned a level playing field, you now feel that you're on a level playing field because I feel the same. I feel that I have the. I have the same chances now as everybody else because of this medication.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly yeah.
Speaker 2:And if it's not triggering for you, then you will lean into that.
Speaker 1:I lean into it. Yeah, yeah, I will so.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And then like in terms of like this is where it's kind of bittersweet in a way, because I am where's my phone.
Speaker 2:I need to go and check oh no, how far away are you oh god but you still could, though you still could keep going.
Speaker 1:I know, I know and this thing I said would be interesting.
Speaker 2:I'm not running out.
Speaker 1:So what I'm talking about, folks, is that probably drop fucking half stone or something so I am six pounds.
Speaker 2:Away from a hundred pounds.
Speaker 1:Away from a hundred pound loss.
Speaker 2:So what the hell?
Speaker 1:But this is where I need to be rational and logical and know that for this period of time, the priority needs to be my body and giving it the nutrients it needs and fueling it for what it needs over this period of time and if that results in some.
Speaker 1:I'm sure it will result in some temporary weight gain. I don't know like it could do, um, it mightn't. Maybe I'll stay the same, I don't know, um, but I am okay with that. I'm okay with that. You know, we've always said, belinda, this is a way bigger picture than any one week or one month or anything of this journey. Oh, my god, you know, you've been on it literally years yeah, like I've been on it only seven ish months or whatever, um, and it's bigger than any one week or any one month.
Speaker 2:So it will be fine. And it's bigger than any one weigh-in as well. Exactly, exactly so it will be fine.
Speaker 1:I am curious, though, to see what happens.
Speaker 1:And as you say maybe, like before, when I have started like going to the gym and minding my food and all that kind of stuff. I have adhered to that really well for a period of time. So so I am confident in my ability to be able to do that for the period of time. It's just that, as we know, there was nearly all of the time that were something would trigger you or you relapsed for a particular reason, and I'm just hoping that, like in if it is four weeks, if, if it is five, whatever that, something like that won't happen in that period of time.
Speaker 2:So like taking a step back from something that has been so pivotal to your progress and everything that you've done right, Do you feel that this pause might teach you something new about your relationship with food?
Speaker 1:and your body.
Speaker 2:Something new about your relationship with food and your body.
Speaker 1:I think it will serve as a reminder for how my body and mind felt before this medication, because I think it's very easy to forget that and to maybe take things for granted. And like I will always be extremely proud of the effort I've put in, because I definitely not somebody that sees this as like a skinny job. I have focused literally since week one. I have been in that gym every single week without fail. I've been in the gym even when I've gone on holidays. I've done like, either walking or I've gone to the gym of the hotel or I've done something like that, and that's not me now obsessing about the exercise, like it's more so a case of I've gone to the gym or the hotel or I've done something like that, and that's not me now obsessing about the exercise. Like it's more so a case of I've tried to be supporting my body with the exercise. If you get me trying to do the right thing.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And with the food thing I like, obviously a lot of effort. My food, by the way, it's not perfectly.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, mine isn't either, it it's not perfect, but it's definitely more, more acceptable nutritional, yeah, more nutritious, absolutely like yeah someone was asking me uh oh like, would you ever have crisps or chocolate? I was like yes yeah it's. The difference is though you can have it yeah, I can have a square chocolate, two squares chocolate, and then I'm grand, that's the difference or not finish a whole packet of crisps like yeah or like I'll get the like this.
Speaker 1:For me, this was the gas things. Like before I would have ordered a set meal for one from the takeaway which I loved, which had, like, so much food with it it really could have fed two. I would have finished all that and sides and now I can't even finish the main and the rice. I know like I know I'm not sad. I'm not.
Speaker 2:I'm not sad about it either, I love getting a Chinese, because it does me for two dinners oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:And this thing, like I'm still getting the flavours, I'm getting my sweet and sour chicken. I get to taste it. So like I'm not, I don't feel. I'm also aware that, like taking that amount of time off from my strength training, it's very likely that I'll see some losses in my strength over that period of time.
Speaker 2:Because you can't Paddy. You know that.
Speaker 1:I can't, I can't.
Speaker 2:You can walk you can go for a long walk, yeah, but that's yeah.
Speaker 1:I've done a lot of walking in January, though, and jogging.
Speaker 2:I know that's enough now. Enough is enough. How many more days have you got? What was I saying? Nine Week?
Speaker 1:Week Eight days.
Speaker 2:It is 31 days, isn't?
Speaker 1:there in January. Why didn't I pick it? I should have done it in February.
Speaker 2:You should have done it in February, 28 days in February, dude.
Speaker 1:Yeah, in case you don't know, is for the month of January. So for the month of January I set myself a target of doing five kilometres every day in aid of women's aid, to try and raise as much money as I could. So we're currently at over a thousand euro, which I am blown away by oh, brilliant yeah yeah, yeah, like my initial target was 500 and yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:I keep forgetting remind me, I keep forgetting to share it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I'm delighted but yeah, if you're somebody that has donated, thank you so much. If you're somebody that hasn't, why nobody has?
Speaker 2:Paddy, you're not missing.
Speaker 1:Shut up, I'm not backtracking, no, it's it is for an extremely worthy cause and I've wanted to. I know we spoke about this before, but like I've wanted to do something like this specifically for, like a woman's charity or female charity for a long time, so, yeah, sort of delighted to get to it, but anyway, so that is the crack with me coming off. Munjarro, I am absolutely shitting it. I really am.
Speaker 1:It is causing me a bit of anxiety yeah, something, some kind of worry in my body, but equally I know, as you kind of say, belinda, it is going to be an extremely interesting experiment to see what is it like. And what is it like coming back on it again afterwards, because I still don't even know what dose I'm going to start back on.
Speaker 2:That was my next question. Yeah, I don't know know what?
Speaker 1:dose. I'm going to start back on. That was my next question. Yeah, I don't know when are you going to go. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2:Like again, and who are you going to talk to about that?
Speaker 1:My current prescriber.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And well, actually, obviously the anaesthetist and the consultant as well, because, like I, want to get their input as well?
Speaker 2:No, will they only be able to tell you the when and not the how much?
Speaker 1:Oh sorry sorry, yeah, yeah, this one. It's been a long week, folks, it's been a long week.
Speaker 2:I know it's been a long week. Everyone's happy, we're here.
Speaker 1:Really they actually are, because I. By the way we're recording this on Thursday night. There's like the and like when I was out in my five cars I was like you know what I say to Belinda that we'll do the podcast tomorrow and I'll get it out tomorrow evening instead. We could have. No, we couldn't have. Belinda, there's a storm, we're probably not going to have electricity.
Speaker 2:Oh, we won't have any electricity.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:Nobody will be listening to us anyway. We'll be all on the podcast.
Speaker 1:I just want to say I'm amazed you remembered what this week's podcast was about you do know, I had it on an alarm at six o'clock on my phone, that said, and we wanted to talk about maintenance as well, didn't we also?
Speaker 2:you know, if people are listening to this podcast and they have been through something that Paddy is going through, you can contact Paddy through his Instagram account, which is manjaro paddy, or drop us an email you can contact.
Speaker 1:Paddy through his Instagram account, which is Manjaro Paddy, yeah, or drop us an email, hello at thedoseie, but yeah. So one of the things that kind of, I guess, came into my mind when I was thinking about this was and it's funny, we were thinking about this the exact same day you sent me a WhatsApp voice note when I had been thinking about the exact same thing. We hadn't said it before about maintenance, maintenance Because I had this sudden realization that wait a minute.
Speaker 2:Nearly there.
Speaker 1:Hopefully, like come summertime, I'm going to be maintaining, not continuing to lose weight.
Speaker 2:I intend to be as well. Yeah, I know, yeah, lose weight and that's not that far away. Yeah, I know, yeah, crazy.
Speaker 1:I haven't given that much thought.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we haven't given it thought at all, because I think we're just so focused on the number that we want to reach and I want to talk about that as well, because that's not a good kind of state of mind to be in either, but we have been focused on a lot of different things, you know we have.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like I say for myself, like the number, I still don't have a number like I still don't know what number I don't know what number, like other people seem obsessed about my number, but I like what's your number, what's your number, what's your number? I'm like, yeah, I don't know, like I keep.
Speaker 2:I keep throwing out this 103 pounds because I want to lose. I want to get to 100 pounds lost but I still want three extra pounds to be able to jiggle. I don't like I don't even know if I've lost weight in the past two weeks because I haven't even second stood in the scales because I don't care. I'm just going to the gym doing my Pilates, doing my walking, eating my food, doing my Instagram.
Speaker 1:Yeah, talking to you like an idiot all day, every day. That's a rumour. Start Well wrong trees. But like I have a t-shirt in the other room from and I have newspaper articles or magazine articles from three, four years ago when I started this social media thing. At the time again, another weight loss attempt Road to 100, it was called and this was my journey to lose 100 pounds.
Speaker 2:When was this?
Speaker 1:Maybe three, four years ago, something like that.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:And I was on the front of the newspaper. I had written a whole big article for a magazine. I'd done like loads of stuff all about this and I started it and I'd done a few videos on it. There's some videos even on YouTube still about it. But as happens, life happened and it stopped.
Speaker 1:And I didn't get anywhere. I didn't get anywhere near, not even halfway near, the £ pounds loss, um, but at that time I think I was about 315 pounds and sorry folks if you work in stones or kilos. I, over the years, I've forced myself to work in pounds because it seems I have to relate it all back to stones and pounds. Yeah, For me it's more so. It's quicker, not quicker wins it's yeah, does it sound better to you.
Speaker 2:Is that what it is?
Speaker 1:I think it's that you see a Because it's a big stone isn't there.
Speaker 2:And you always have to do pounds with it.
Speaker 1:Yeah Well, you'd usually see a pound loss quicker on the scale than you would a kilo or a stone.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so it was oh, absolutely, that was my logic. That was totally my logic. You're right, yeah. Yeah, that was my logic, yeah, and I've just stuck with that. You're probably right, actually, yeah.
Speaker 1:And also you don't.
Speaker 2:Go on.
Speaker 1:Sorry, like I know, the last time for an appointment and he was like, what's your weight? And I said pounds or stones, and he said kilos and I was like oh, get out of town kilos. I was like, let me do a quick, like two kind of two and a half. Yeah, I said I think I think about this. I said, do you work in kilos? He's like, yeah, we typically work in kilos. I was like, oh interesting. I was like I can tell you in pounds, no problem. But he couldn't translate the pounds.
Speaker 2:That's mad.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:And so he got his little calculator thing out and did it, Paddy you never seem to mind putting yourself out there where your weight loss is concerned. Yeah, when you think about you did the biggest loser. You went in there and said this is me, I'm going to do this, I'm going to lose this weight. And then you did, and then you went on to do the life on 100 pounds. Is that what you said, sorry?
Speaker 1:The road to 100, I've done loads of different things. I think this is where some of the trolls will be like oh, you're just a lifelong dieter and you're this, that and the other, and I can see why they would think that. But I think they're saying it from a very different place from the way I'd be saying it in terms of yeah, yeah, I have suffered, I have lived a life of constantly trying to lose weight you know, whereas they're more so saying it like um oh you're always at it, yeah you're a constant failure because you don't you never achieve it.
Speaker 1:But other thing that's interesting that struck me yesterday is that, based on my weight loss as of today, this week, I have now lost more on this journey than I did when I was on the Biggest Loser.
Speaker 2:Stop. That's amazing. That's a different time frame. That's something to keep in mind. It's a very different time frame.
Speaker 1:This is a smart. No, Briggs-Lewis was smaller.
Speaker 2:Smaller? Yeah, but that wasn't. It just wasn't sustainable, paddy.
Speaker 1:No, of course not.
Speaker 2:That lifestyle that they had forced upon you Now.
Speaker 1:I would do it again in the morning. I bet you would it was, and like I'm way, more prudent.
Speaker 2:A blast was it.
Speaker 1:It was such I know we spoke about this so I don't want to rehash but it was such I know we spoke about this so I don't want to rehash but it was such a phenomenal experience and the most amazing people, the most amazing people One of whom, of course, is Angie Dowds, who sadly died Passed away, yeah, yeah, from suicide, kind of the year that it aired, oh.
Speaker 1:Lord but that is also, myself and Angie become extremely close and I'd been over in London with her just six, seven days before she passed away and I'd been up in her house with her and myself and Peter had been chilling with her and having the crack and everything.
Speaker 2:So this was before it aired, or?
Speaker 1:After it aired. So it aired in the January February time and we lost Angie then in November. Yeah, 20th of November. How old was she Paddy Old, so she was born 1969. So she would have been like 40s, near 40s.
Speaker 2:Very uncommon 69.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, 50. I don't know Very uncommon 69. Yeah, no, 50. 69. I don't know, because I got some charity t-shirts at the time done Because Angie had a huge following. I mean massive following online.
Speaker 2:So what was her part in the show then?
Speaker 1:She was my trainer.
Speaker 2:Oh right, okay. Oh, yes, you've told me this. I beg your pardon, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she was 42. She was the age I am now.
Speaker 2:Imagine Crikey yeah.
Speaker 1:Yes, sir, and she did. She had demons and she had troubles and stuff like that. But I'll never forget the day the PR company rang me because they knew how close you were. And yeah, they were just like Paddy, we need to talk to you. And I was like oh god, and then I thought, oh, have I done something wrong?
Speaker 1:have I said something on air, yeah because I was doing TV stuff at that time for like TV3 and stuff, and I was like, oh god, and we, as I touched on before, we had a five-year contract with Biggest Loser after we finished. So I thought, oh God, what have I done?
Speaker 2:What do you mean? A five-year? How would that work out then? What were you supposed to do?
Speaker 1:So pretty much for five years afterwards, the company essentially had the right to have a say on what kind of publicity work or stuff we did or didn't do, or brand stuff we did or didn't do. Yeah, but they were fantastic with me. I never had like in this way. I think I had such a positive experience of Biggest Loser Like I did of the people, the trainers and you would have helped.
Speaker 2:obviously she was a massive part of it.
Speaker 1:Like, yeah, more than people know, people will ever know. But yeah, when the production company rang me, they were like Paddy, yeah, we've had reports of this and we just want you to know. And I was like devastating right and I was like I was only with her a few days ago and jarring, isn't it?
Speaker 1:I was like how, how sure are you of what you've heard? Like, is it just hearsay or has it been confirmed? And they're like, no, it is yeah, we're like very certain. I was like okay, and I just and at that time and this is not me trying to name drop I honestly mean that that this isn't because I'm I'm not that type people that know me it's not.
Speaker 1:But just tell the story, paddy, it's okay but at that time as well, I remember not that type People that know me, it's not Just tell the story, paddy, it's okay. But at that time as well, I remember Davina McCall ringing me one evening and me just on the bed fucking bawling my eyes out, and her just being so absolutely amazing as well, and just being so supportive and just being a person there.
Speaker 2:I love Davina, I follow her.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and like this was like pretty much a year, actually nearly a year after the show had finished filming, like we'd well the most we had finished film. We recorded the final, let's say, in february, but from the main chunk of it. So, like you know, in my mind I was probably just another contestant on another show. You know that davina had kind of hosted, but yeah yeah, um, she was yeah, so I do get defensive if anyone says anything bad between me. Oh it's fake, it's this that. So she's like.
Speaker 2:She was very sick herself, like extremely sick.
Speaker 1:But yeah, so anyway, one of the things is where this story was going is and I've talked about this in one of my, I've talked about it a few times over the years in terms of, and where I'm getting to here is maintenance. This is all linked to maintenance. Back at that time when the day that I moved home from England, which was the I think it was the day at the Biggest Loser, the Fine Laird, I think it could have, I think it was, I think, off the ferry back from England that day. But I met Angie for lunch in London and she had bought me this Austin Reed velvet jacket that I had worn the night of the final that we filmed it for walking out on stage as a gift.
Speaker 2:And.
Speaker 1:I was able to wear it for a small period of time because I started regaining weight pretty quickly afterwards. So for me, one of the key measures of I'm almost there is being able to fit that jacket on me, and that is way more important than any number will ever be on the scale, because I've been waiting 14 years for that jacket to fit me again.
Speaker 2:Have you tried it?
Speaker 1:I have tried it. I tried it before christmas time um wasn't there then um, but I do see it I, I kind of see it hopefully happening. Yeah, I'd say between where are we now? Like we're say, end of january. So and I say I don't know what way fe's going to go because of the things we spoke about.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was just going to say maybe leave it till. Leave it till a month after or so.
Speaker 1:I would say that I would love to be able to wear that during the summertime, like early summer. I'd love to be able to go around wearing that.
Speaker 2:That's a goal, isn't it? Yeah, it is NSV, as they say, non-scale victory.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and this is like, maintenance is way more than just maintenance, it's all it's these other things.
Speaker 2:Can I? I have a lovely message that somebody sent me on.
Speaker 2:Instagram about maintenance and this lady her name is Harper and we myself and Harper have. She's from San Diego in California, and we've been speaking online on Instagram for two solid years, as of the 16th of January this month. It's so funny and she's just. This woman is just stunningly beautiful and gorgeous. So I put out a call and asked people you know, have they been in maintenance and what's their experience of it? And Harper wrote that was the scariest part for me, honestly, it's still a day to day journey underpinned by the choices I make, but it was a true life, the true lifestyle changes that saved me. If you don't nail down not only those good habits, but the root of what got you there in the first place, like psychologically and emotionally, it's harder. The other advice I'd want people to know is to be careful about getting to a specific number and staying there.
Speaker 2:You don't want to feel like you're chasing a number for the rest of your life. It's weird for me to say just find your set point, but once you get towards the end of your journey, your body will signal it. I have fluctuated but managed to keep my weight within five pounds. It definitely still takes discipline, grace I love it.
Speaker 1:I love it, yeah, and just that's, that's.
Speaker 2:She's just a gorgeous soul you know, and it's so eloquently written.
Speaker 1:And she's right, she's dead right and everything she said, yeah, like. For me, worst case scenario would be oh, I need to be 15 stone and I have to stay 15 stone and I'm not. I know, that's not the number I'm saying, I'm just picking a number yeah yeah, um, but I definitely would be off the type that even when I was um doing personal training and working with people and they'd be like, oh, I want, you know, I need to be 11 stones, like, well, you don't, let's dig into that.
Speaker 2:Nobody needs to be anything. What?
Speaker 1:what about if we said somewhere between like 11 and 12, or yeah, you know, maybe you know 10 stone 12 and 11 stone 12, or you know, maybe that range is a bit healthier because it gives you a bit more of a uh, uh, a healthier approach to the kind of to the journey. So that's definitely where my head is at in terms of like. It's interesting when I was talking to the doctor and the doctor asked me he's like, what's your goal weight?
Speaker 1:And I said I don't know, I don't know, I don't have one.
Speaker 2:That probably stunned him.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and he's like okay, I said to be linked to a number, but obviously a smaller body will make that easier to achieve. So, like I've other things that I want to get done, like a vo2 max test, where they kind of test the oxygen, how well your body is kind of and your dexascan is coming up soon as well.
Speaker 2:Dexascan is coming up soon as well.
Speaker 1:Dexascan is coming up, yeah, next week. So I had a Dexascan done in late September, early October, around the time I started my strength training, and I'm getting it done again now. I have no idea what to expect, like I don't know if that's too soon to get it done again, or anything. Like it could be. I don't know.
Speaker 2:You should have asked the radiographer or the chap that does it. You should reach out to them.
Speaker 1:Well, like the way that I'm thinking about it is like weight-wise.
Speaker 2:when I had my last DEXA scan done, yeah, how much weight have you lost since then?
Speaker 1:Over two stone.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Over two stone more.
Speaker 2:When is it booked in for Monday? Oh right, okay, so like literally a few days, over two stone more.
Speaker 1:when is it booked in for Monday? Oh, right, okay so like literally a few days. But the thing that I'm interested in like the research that I've seen about muscle loss, specifically when you're on this type of journey- is that it's in and around. I think it's about 25% loss is what is expected to be seen yeah, because people are screaming at me about it in my comments.
Speaker 2:I think it's about 25% loss is what is expected to be seen. Yeah, because people are screaming at me about it in my comments.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so like muscle loss will happen on any weight loss journey, typically Any.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So it can. You know it's a part of weight loss and that's why it's important to you know. Be focusing on your protein, be focusing on your strength training. That's why there is an emphasis on this kind of stuff.
Speaker 2:Yes, you want your protein because it keeps you fuller for longer as well, but also it is literally one of the key foundational things for healthy kind of muscles and that for you, but the narrative is from these people is that it's the drug that the minute you inject yourself with any kind of GLP-1, that medication goes into your system and it eats away at your muscles. This is the narrative that they're talking about and it's completely and utterly wrong. Yeah, like.
Speaker 1:I don't know, like that 25% loss. I don't know how much of that is a reaction to medication or if it's all just from Losing weight. The weight or that.
Speaker 2:yeah, I'm not sure to medication, or if it's all just from losing the weight or that?
Speaker 1:yeah, I'm not sure. But so what I'm interested to see is essentially, when I get it next week versus last time. Like two stones is a fairly significant amount of weight still to have lost. Will I'm more so than that? My body has changed a lot since then yeah, so it will show like yeah a lot has changed, so there's something there I'm interested about as well.
Speaker 1:But um, yeah, I'm interested out of that um those pounds. I've lost 28, 30. Whatever amount it is does, am I seeing 25 reduction in muscle mass in my body? Yes, oh yeah or am I seeing less or more? Yeah so that's, and there has not been.
Speaker 1:I don't because, keep in mind, I've been doing strength training during this period of time as well and I'm not going to yes and I'm not aware of any clinical trial yet that has been done specifically on people on a glp1 who are strength training um to see what is the impact of their body. So it's so. It's interesting. It's going to be interesting to see, yeah um, what it is like.
Speaker 1:Initially I was a bit naive. It's like, oh, it'd be great if you know I stayed the same. I, I, I kind of quickly had a bit of a realization like, yeah, that's probably not going to be the fact, I probably will have lost some muscle mass, but I, I would hope.
Speaker 2:But you've been working hard. But you've been working hard in the gym, paddy, yeah I have built muscles. So is that going to counteract it?
Speaker 1:let's see yeah, I'll be, I'll be interested in yeah yeah, and I guess that's my hope is that it will be less than 25%. Yeah, that's what I'm hoping for. Yeah, but anyhow, that's the crack kind of from my side this week.
Speaker 2:We do kind of want to go deeper into maintenance though I think and we want to get a professional on to have a chat about going into the maintenance phase of the GLP-1 medication, because everybody is going to need some guidance on this soon and I think as well that there's not many people out there that are in the maintenance phase because this medication is so new and of course, there is going to come a year's time when everybody is going to be reaching their goal, or previous to that, and we'll want somebody to have you know some insight into it and and this is where you will find people in england are specifically manjaro related.
Speaker 1:people in england are going to be ahead of us because they've had manjaro since last march april time, so there are definitely some people there and even when you say that people have been ahead of us also, like this country was stuck with Ozempic for so long. And Sexenda yeah.
Speaker 2:And the people that started on Manjaro, for even God, the difference between my journey and your journey.
Speaker 1:Paddy, do you know what I mean? And look at different people Equally. There's some people that have been on Manjaro that even today I saw somebody. Manjaro hasn't worked for me. I want to look at some of the other ones in one of the groups that I'm in. Yeah, so it's interesting and this is the thing.
Speaker 1:Like, not all medications work for everyone, even Manjaro you know this thing, I haven't heard that it's taken a while, yeah, for it to kick in, there'll be a cohort of people that it won't work for, but yeah, one dot ones, might, you know, and this is why, as we say, any medical decisions and stuff like that, you know, speak to to your doctor qualified professionals that can give you the guidance on that and can help support you with whatever the medication is, whatever movement of medication one to another, because of things we factored in for all that kind of stuff as well.
Speaker 1:But anyway, yes a future conversation, and we would love if you are somebody that is either maybe you are maintaining because you've been on one of the other medications for a while, or if you have questions about maintenance that you would like us to put to the professionals let us know Again. Feel free to email us. Hello at thedoseie. I say that's the easiest way, because our inboxes just get slammed with the other day-to-day messages, so maybe email us those ones.
Speaker 2:My message request is just. I know it gives me anxiety looking at it.
Speaker 1:Belinda. Any other thoughts or final words of wisdom from you?
Speaker 2:just want to wish you well, paddy thank you and no like genuinely, because I can't even imagine the feelings of anxiety around it and I don't want anybody that's listening to this to think that, oh my god, like the two of them, they're so dependent on it and blah, blah blah in a negative way. It's just that it's had such a positive impact on every single aspect of our lives that it is nerve wracking. And you know it's an unknown. Yeah, and that's the thing, and that is the. You know it's an unknown.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and that's the thing, and that is the thing. It's a period of unknown. And who knows, belinda, as we say, I could get through the next month, I could have maybe maintained my weight, I could have lost a bit more weight, I could be flying it, you know.
Speaker 2:Paddy, I have every faith in the world that you're going to be absolutely fine.
Speaker 1:Well, thank you.
Speaker 2:You've got me behind you. What more do you need I?
Speaker 1:know, thank you. You'll be absolutely grand. Just keep your like nine million messages a day coming.
Speaker 2:Take support.
Speaker 1:People think we're exaggerating. We're not. Like literally. You could wake up at like seven o'clock oh, belinda's in the gym, oh, you could wake up at like 7 o'clock oh, belinda's in the gym, oh, a voice note from Belinda, oh god.
Speaker 2:but however, I fucking can't believe I'm here at 7 o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know, I know we don't even say hello to each other anymore.
Speaker 2:We used to say good morning. We don't even say good morning straight into the conversation.
Speaker 1:I was thinking about this write this shit down cool. We will wrap it up there, folks. Thank you very much for listening and I'll do the music again.
Speaker 2:Oh wait you've got it. I can probably get it on my phone again.
Speaker 1:Can I do?
Speaker 2:Paddy, I will see you in the studio next Monday at 6pm. You know I was on my Instagram giving out about you earlier.
Speaker 1:Really Okay, I need to check that. Okay, let's see. Can I get some end music? Yeah, you are. Oh, that's us saying goodbye. Where's our music? Oh no, I can't. Oh no, that's the wrong podcast. Oh, it's gone on to help us exit the boss.
Speaker 2:Oh my Lord, Okay.
